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This article smells funny.  It sounds like it might be alarmist ludditism.  I mean, I agree that just like how one domestic partner usually handles the bills, which is a liability for the uninvolved partner, technology similarly is usually set up by one of the partners.  So during a breakup if your partner is a jerk they could be a malicious asshole and make your life difficult.

 

So just like the bills, the water sprinklers, water heater, the alarm system, the door locks... The technology also needs to be considered as part of the breakup transition.

 

But I have a hard time believing this is some new and sweeping problem that we should be freaking out about.  An article like this will often be used to start a movement against technology and I hate that.

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/23/technology/smart-home-devices-domestic-abuse.html

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2 hours ago, GunnerX said:

The solution is easy.  Disconnect the WiFi. 😀

 I manage a technical support team for a company that sells the type of product mentioned in the article. Most of the people who buy this technology have very little understanding of how it works or how to even locate the WiFi devices in their homes. I don't say that in abstract - there are literal numbers and data to support this. Smarthome technology is something more and more people want but they A: don't understand how to use it when it is installed without some serious help and B: need extensive support if something breaks or does not work. Most of these systems sit on a network backbone in the home and there's usually a professional setting those networks with various types of devices. In my industry, it's in-wall and/or in-ceiling AP's that are not easily accessible and connect to a larger POE switch supplying power and signal. Those devices could be enclosure mounted or rack mounted somewhere in the home that the customer simply does not access or doesn't know how to access.

 

The article in question doesn't read as alarmist to me but more informative to the folks that make these products and should be thinking about their own security protocols and use cases to better enhance their products. This article was distributed throughout our building today and has engendered a ton of conversation about how we should look at customer use case journey maps in our product development. That's a positive thing.

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The article in question doesn't read as alarmist to me but more informative to the folks that make these products and should be thinking about their own security protocols and use cases to better enhance their products. This article was distributed throughout our building today and has engendered a ton of conversation about how we should look at customer use case journey maps in our product development. That's a positive thing.


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Full disclosure, this was the original article I read that sparked me to make this thread:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/02/smart-home-abuse-no-easy-out/

 

So of course there is some additional editorializing in the above article that you don't get in the NYTimes article.  I posted the NYTimes one because it was the source for the engadget one, but I suppose I should provide a link to the actual article I was reacting to.

 

I agree that all home appliances, technology, and products should should be designed in consideration of home ownership changes.  But that is not a new problem.

 

I am very sensitive to issues being classified as unique and particular to new technology.  Like how social media invented bullying.  Phones invented people ignoring one another.  Romier invented smugness.  

 

 

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Social media just amplified bullying  100 fold. That is the worst thing about the internet IMO

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58 minutes ago, JoeyN said:

Social media just amplified bullying  100 fold. That is the worst thing about the internet IMO

Porn is a way heavier counterweight than anything you can come up with.

 

I would take issue with the 100 multiplier though.  Our faded perceptions of our youth through adult eyes when compared to our indirect perception of "kids these days" experience through our adult eyes, isn't exactly a scientific A/B comparison.  All I have to go on is my narrow personal experience as a kid, and my narrow personal experience as an adult with a teenager.  Causing another kid humiliation via the largest social audience possible is an impulse that is rewarded efficiently with social media.  No doubt.  

 

But there are social checks and balances.  If your behavior is truly negative, immoral, or just straight-bullying, the larger your audience, the increased chance of you getting called out for your bad behavior.  If not by your peers, which I have seen happen, then eventually by parents and school leadership (teachers, admin, etc.).  Basically, the social media multiplier causes exposure in both directions.  Visibility.  Transparency.

 

So again, not saying it isn't an issue.  It most certainly is.  But I think 100x is bit of hyperbole, given what I've seen and am seeing.

 

 

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3 hours ago, foogledricks said:

Full disclosure, this was the original article I read that sparked me to make this thread:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/02/smart-home-abuse-no-easy-out/

 

So of course there is some additional editorializing in the above article that you don't get in the NYTimes article.  I posted the NYTimes one because it was the source for the engadget one, but I suppose I should provide a link to the actual article I was reacting to.

 

I agree that all home appliances, technology, and products should should be designed in consideration of home ownership changes.  But that is not a new problem.

 

I am very sensitive to issues being classified as unique and particular to new technology.  Like how social media invented bullying.  Phones invented people ignoring one another.  Romier invented smugness.  

 

 


I most assuredly did not but I sure as hell work my ass off to excel at it. My momma always told me if I was going to do something, give it 100%.:)

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