jhfagan Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Was in the mood for some Trek, and realized I haven't seen Nemesis I think since it came out in the theaters! I found the 2 disc edition at a store at a great price and said, what the hell. When I watched it, I surprised myself at finding that it wasn't as bad a film as I thought I remembered it being. Maybe because I was able to just relax and take my time viewing it at home where in the theater there's just too much going on. People around me, nachos on my lap and someone's old soda on the floor sticking to my shoes. But I was able to digest the film a little bit better and get the feel for it this time around. Not saying it's some fantastic movie, cause it's not, but it's a very enjoyable film, and to me at least, a good Star Trek film. It took a good, much needed turn with the arc of the characters, yes, even the death of Data. But even though it "tied" things up so to speak, it DID leave the possibility of another TNG film, should the powers that be decide it. I'd even say continuing the TNG cast along with maybe the DS9 cast and starting a line of films with them? Anyway, just some rambling about Trek, seeing as the new one is on the horizon. Which btw, I am excited about as well. In that spirit, I think I may have to revisit Wrath Of Khan here soon! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCREWNUT Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 http://www.khaaan.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I need to re-watch this then because I havent seen it since the theater either. Of the TNGs, First Contact is my favorite, Generations is pretty good, and I like Insurrection much more than most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I spin The Wrath of Khan more often than the others in my collection, although I've really grown fond of The Motion Picture recently. I have Nemesis, but haven't watched it all the way through at home. Maybe it's time to give it a spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I am a huge TNG fan, and was never into the Original Series. I watched The Motion Picture for the first time a few years ago, and while I dont remember much about it, I do remember being underwhelmed. What has changed recently to make it appeal to you more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well, I'm of that age when the OS was actually on TV. Maybe it's seeing Kirk & Co. still fairly young, maybe it's seeing those who have passed, but I like the scope of the movie; Wise managed to give it a look that I don't believe the other movies could match. Now, I'm no Trekker (although I did get to meet Jimmy Doohan in Seattle shortly after the release of TMP), more of a casual fan, so I can't delve into the many facets of OS vs. TNG, but I just enjoyed the OS films more than the others. Generations? Okay. First Contact? Much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCREWNUT Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I like First Contact, Wraith of Khan, Voyage Home and The undiscovered country. In that order. As for TV shows. I liked the war years of Deep Space Nine the best. I even liked Enterprise too. Too bad they canned it just as it was getting good! My favourite crossover between all of the show Mirror Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Carbine Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 ...maybe it's seeing those who have passed, but I like the scope of the movie; Wise managed to give it a look that I don't believe the other movies could match.I agree. Khan is my favorite but TMP is not that far off....but I just enjoyed the OS films more than the others.Same here but then I like the OS much more than TNG, DS9, et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsrunner Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 I like pretty much all Trek (with the exception of Enterprise). I can even enjoy Voyager at times. I like DS9 the best of any of the series when taken as a whole, although two of my favorite all-time Trek episodes are from TNG (Tapestry and Darmok). The movies on the other hand, are a whole different thing. Nemesis is absolute crap. The biggest problem with the TNG movies (with the exception of First Contact) is that they focus too much on Picard and Data...a necessary evil, but the strength of TNG (and DS9 as well) was ensemble nature of the cast. Everybody had a few episodes a season to shine, or at least the opportunity to shine. First Contact is really the only TNG movie that is any good...and its VERY good, which for me just makes the others stand out as being incredibly bad. Kirk should never have died in such a blah manner. TOS movies don't suffer as much in comparison to the TV show because the TV show was 95% about the Kirk/Spock/McCoy troika, as were the movies. Wrath of Khan is almost perfect. Search for Spock is decent, Voyage Home is good fun and Undiscovered Country is great, and would be as good as Khan if they weren't so OLD . The Motion Picture is extremely boring to me. Can't stand it. And the less said about The Search for God, I mean The Final Frontier, the better. Yeesh. Of course, I love DS9, but there's just no way a movie would work. At least none that I can think of. Talk about character-driven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Order of my favorite movies Undiscovered Country Wrath of Kahn Voyage Home First Contact Search for Spock Generations Insurrection Nemesis Final Frontier The Motion Picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Wraith of Kahn Hmmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Too much Stargate Atlantis :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Too much Stargate Atlantis :-) :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDarth Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Great to see some love for the original series here. The director's cut of the TMP fixes many issues including edits to reduce the interminable Enterprise fly-over of V'Ger scenes and to my mind remains the most epic and SF oriented of all the Star Trek pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I love many TOS movies, however TMP is not one of them and to my mind remains the most epic and SF oriented of all the Star Trek pictures. And the most sleep inducing movie I have ever seen. I am a huge Trek fan. Seen every movie, and every episode of every trek series many times. Even the animated series, and read most of the books. The Motion picture is the only thing in the franchise I have not watched in one sitting. Every single time i watch it I fall asleep. It can be 8 am and I just woke up and it will still put me down. It's like a sleeping pill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Damn Joey, I think you made The Motion Picture cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 TMP is patient. It will wait for you to appreciate it. Actually, I didn't like it for years, but it slowly grew on me... not unlike mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I'll fix that for you TMP is A patient. and should be taken off life support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Leave the jokes to the professionals... remember, the strike is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 remember, the strike is over. Too bad it wasn't going while that snorefest was written? BA-DUM BUM! Thank you, I'm here every Tuesday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Damn he beat me to the joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDarth Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Jokes aside, keep them coming if you must;), are these comments based on the director's cut or the original release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Actually, I like bits and pieces of both. Watched the original version on laser disc a while back and actually like the Old School planet Vulcan look than the director's cut. And, cutting out Kirk's classic "OH MY GAWD!" moment after the transporter went butt-whacky... what's up with that?! That ranks right up there with "KHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!" And the slightly ugly look of the LD harkens back to the old days when the wind blew the TV antenna around and made Star Trek look like something from the 50s! Memories.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Jokes aside, keep them coming if you must;), are these comments based on the director's cut or the original release? Any and all cuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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