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Now that the 2008 NBA Finals are over, this is a general thread for us NBA fans (yes, all 5 of us here!) to discuss all things NBA going forward.

 

I'll start things off with some questions to get the discussion rolling...

 

1) With the #1 pick, who will Chicago take? Will they trade down or trade the pick entirely (for perhaps a veteran player)? Who will be the sleeper of the draft?

 

2) Who will be the NBA rookie of the year next season?

 

3) Of all the teams with new coaches (and there a lot!), which one will have the biggest turnaround?

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3) Im hoping Larry Brown and the Bobcats have big turnaround season. It feels like they are always close to being a decent contender.

 

  • In the Bickerstaff era, many of the games they lost were only by as few as 3-5 points.
  • In the Sam Vincent era, well they had Sam Vincent.
  • And last year, Sean May and Adam Morrison were injured the entire season.

Im hoping for:

 

  • Healthy Players
  • A decent draft pick
  • A more cohesive team with some experience now
  • and Larry Brown's guidance to get the Cats to their best season yet.

 

I also think the Portland Trailblazers are going to kick ass this year. I love that team. It's like watching college guys vs. Pros when they play.

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I love Larry Brown (despite his nomadic personality). I think he is one of the smartest basketball coaches around. I think he will be a good fit for them as most of the Bobcats players are young, and if they are willing to listen to him, they'll learn a lot. I only see them play a few times a year but my biggest concern with them is that all their players are good but none of them are what I would call stars or go-to guys (which may factor in why they lost so many close games through their infancy). I think they need to sign a star/go-to guy via free agency (maybe try sign Monta Ellis?) or trade away some of their young prospects for a proven veteran (someone like Chauncey Billups?).

 

Portland is loaded with young talent and if they can mesh everybody's talents together, looks to be a Western Conference power for a long, long time.

 

As far as the #1 pick, I think it's a mortal lock that Chicago will draft Chicago-native Derrick Rose over Michael Beasley. They already have Luol Deng (is Beasley going to be a quantum leap over Deng? doubtful) and Rose's game is tailor-made for the NBA. I'm not sure about Vinny Del Negro as a coach though. I've heard rumors that Miami was thinking of drafting O.J. Mayo over Beasley with the #2 pick. Having seen Mayo play a lot at USC (he's got a sweet jumper but for someone who is athletic and can handle the ball so well, he does not drive to the basket much), I think that would be a reach. They could probably trade down and pick him up in the 5-7 range and get an additional player or draft pick if they really want Mayo.

 

I think Derrick Rose will be the Rookie of the Year next year. With the current NBA rules, penetrators like Rose are practically guaranteed to go to the free throw line 8-10 times a game. And he will start, get loads of playing time, and the offense will run through him in Chicago. My gut feeling about Beasley is that, despite having all the skills and talent, he doesn't have that internal drive to be a great player. He may get it eventually, but I don't think that's going to happen in his rookie year. Plus, if he's drafted by Miami, there's no way he'll have the numbers to be ROY with Wade dominating the ball.

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I only see them play a few times a year but my biggest concern with them is that all their players are good but none of them are what I would call stars or go-to guys

 

That player has kind of turned out to be Gerald Wallace. He's, without a doubt, the best player on that team. It's cool because he was sitting on the bench in Sacramento before he was pulled in by Charlotte's expansion draft.

 

They did sign Jason Williams to also be a star/go-to guy, and he's turned out to be "OK" so far for the team.

 

The only part of the college game I follow is Duke, and to a lessor extent, the ACC. I wish I knew more about this upcoming group of draft picks to add to the convo.

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I also think the Portland Trailblazers are going to kick ass this year. I love that team. It's like watching college guys vs. Pros when they play.

 

I'm certainly pulling for them to have a great year. I've been to a few of their games in the last couple years and I really enjoy watching this group if guys play. They are a breath of fresh air after puting up with the "Jail Blazers" for so many years. Brandon Roy is the real deal. He is always under control and keeps a steady head about him. He plays like a 10yr veteran. He isn't flashy but he gets the job done. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Oden pans out for Portland but I just dont trust his health. I remember seeing him walk shortly after being drafted by the Blazers and the guy looked like he was in his 40's. I think every Blazer fan is anxious to see Oden in action. As long as he can snag rebounds and be a defensive presence in the middle I think Portland can get into the playoffs next year. Its going to be tough though because the West is absolutely loaded.

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Of the 12 on that list only Redd is a legit shooter although his %'s have sucked of late. I would take Wade off that list and replace him with a shooter who can play some D. Wade and the Heat were emberrasing in 2008. He shouldn't be on this team. I'm thinking Rashard Lewis or Raja Bell would have been a nice fit. Heck if they wanted tweener gaurd I would much rather they selected Brandon Roy over Wade.

 

That being said though I hope this team doesn't get 3pt shot happy. Use that athleticism and attack the rim everytime down.

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Why wouldn't Kobe or Lebron qualify as "legit shooters?"

Do you mean a pure shooter who is lacking in other areas of his game? I'm confused.

 

I'm talking someone who is fundementally sound in his jumpshot and is consistantly clutch at hitting the 3 ball. Think Ray Allen, Steve Nash, etc. Lebron is not a legit shooter and never has been. He is a scorer. His jumpshot especially from long range is about as inconsistant as anyone in the league. His job is to slash to the basket and play above the rim. He can't even hit FT's at a decent %. His shot lacks finesse/fundementals. He is a brute who is at his best when attacking the rim not fading away bricking jumpers. If I were his coach I would not allow him to shoot 3's...ever. :) Kobe on the other hand has a pure stroke and can hit from anywhere on the court. I should have made that clear in my post. His game is not hitting 3's however.

 

I guess my point is when I looked at the list I didn't see anyone aside from Redd that made me think 3 point specialist/knock down long range shooter. I guess its a sign of the times that we as a country don't put much emphasis on the fundementals of the jump shot. I'm all for making the dunk illegal. Whos with me? :)

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Yeah, I kinda thought that's what you meant, but not including Kobe is what confused me. I was guessing you were thinking of someone ala Ray Allen.

 

Oh, and I didn't realize Lebron was THAT bad outside. Hell, he did a number on the Celtics from the outside, but from your analysis it sounds like maybe the Celtics caught him hot from long range.

 

I'm all for making the dunk illegal. Whos with me?

 

Nah, not me, I love to see a good mix of various offensive and defensive plays. I do love the jump shots though, and Ray Allen and the Celtics bench were a shit load of fun to watch this year. I am absolutely amazed how consistent the shooters can be from long range. That certainly takes more talent than dunking. :tu

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To be clear I was only joking about banning dunking. I'm not THAT old school. ;) I just hate what influence streetball has had on the game I love. I see these kids practicing fancy dribbling moves instead of puting in some hard work into the fundamentals of the game. Its a big reason why I love the Spurs. Tim Duncan has the coolest nickname ("The Big Fundamental") in the NBA IMO. I enjoyed watching Boston take it to the Lakers for simlar reasons. They bought into the concept of unselfish play and commiting themselves to defense for 48minutes. I'd love to see a Spurs vs Celtics final next year I just hope the window of opportunity hasn't closed on my aging Spurs just yet. Next year is an odd number year so they are due. :) They really need to add some young blood this summer. Could really use an athletic forward.

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I'm thinking Rashard Lewis or Raja Bell would have been a nice fit.

 

Raja Bell plays for the U.S. Virgin Islands national team so I don't think he's either eligible or interested. Of those eligible (excluding international players such as Nash and Stojakovic), I think the best candidates (based on a combination of things like percentage, number of 3 point shots made/taken, other skills they bring) would be Rashard Lewis (226-533, .409), Ray Allen (180-452, .398), Paul Pierce (143-365, .392), Mike Miller (155-359, .432), Mike Dunleavy Jr. (165-389, .424), Bruce Bowen (90-215, .419) and Jason Richardson (243-599, .406). For whatever reason, Bruce Bowen was one of the last cuts to last year's team and Mike Miller was on last year's team but didn't make this year's team.

 

That being said though I hope this team doesn't get 3pt shot happy. Use that athleticism and attack the rim everytime down.

 

If last year's Olympic qualifying tourament is any indication, they will win by playing ultra-aggressive defense and attacking the rim. The only way I can see them struggling is if a team plays a pack-it-in zone against them and they go ice cold from the perimeter. Considering how many talented scorers and playmakers they have (and the shorter international 3 point line), I don't see that as being a real problem though.

 

I do love the jump shots though, and Ray Allen and the Celtics bench were a shit load of fun to watch this year. I am absolutely amazed how consistent the shooters can be from long range. That certainly takes more talent than dunking.

 

I gotta agree about how amazingly consistent NBA shooters are. I think that is a fatal flaw that the Lakers' defense needs to rectify for next season. Too often, they left open lethal 3 point shooters like Ray Allen to help out on Rondo's penetration. In the WCF, the Spurs perimeter shooters were consistently left open. Nowadays, 3 pointers are almost layups for good shooters.

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Man Kevin Pritchard (Portland Trailblazers GM) is a genious when it comes to puting together personell. I love the moves he is making. This team is going to be really fun to watch over the next 5-10years assuming they dont screw it up. I'm already talking to people about what teams we want to go see this year when they come to town. I haven't been this excited for the Blazers since the late 80's/early 90's.

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Interesting... Corey Maggette, Elton Brand, and Baron Davis opt out. Elton Brand has said that he opted out to give the Clippers more flexibility in signing other free agents and Baron Davis is an L.A. native. If they don't re-sign Maggette and they sign Brand and Baron Davis, they could have a very nice starting line-up of Davis, rookie Eric Gordon, last year's all-rookie first team Al Thornton, Brand, and Chris Kaman.

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Wow, it's weird that the city of Seattle will still own the rights to the Sonics' name, colors, and team history. Usually the team carries it's legacy with it. Has this every happened before? If they just get a new team, wouldnt it just be like the same Sonics with new owners?

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Bennett said he and Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels signed a binding agreement Wednesday, which would be formalized later, that keeps the SuperSonics' name, logo and colors available if Seattle gets a replacement franchise. Bennett said his franchise would create duplicate championship banners and trophies, leaving one set in Seattle and using the second set for undetermined purposes in Oklahoma City.

 

:umm

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