Tonner Cyn Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 From NeoGAF forums: Many thanks to NPD as always for their continued support. HW Sales Hardware Unit Sales Oct-08 Wii 803K Nintendo DS 491K Xbox 360 371K PSP 193K PlayStation 3 190K PlayStation 2 136K Top 10 SW Publisher Release Date Rank # Units 360 FABLE II MICROSOFT (CORP) Oct-08 1 790K WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 487K 360 FALLOUT 3 BETHESDA SOFTWORKS Oct-08 3 375K WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 290K WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 5 282K 360 SAINTS ROW 2 THQ (CORP) Oct-08 6 270K PS3 SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS CONFRONTATION SONY (CORP) Oct-08 7 231K PS3 LITTLE BIG PLANET SONY (CORP) Oct-08 8 215K 360 NBA 2K9 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) Oct-08 9 202K 360 DEAD SPACE ELECTRONIC ARTS Oct-08 10 193K Industry Sales Dollar Sales Oct-07 Oct-08 CHG YTD Oct 07 YTD Oct 08 CHG Video Games $1.12B $1.31B 18% $10.50B $13.13B 25% Video Games Hardware $470.47M $494.74M 5% $4.13B $4.72B 14% Video Games Software $514.60M $696.79M 35% $4.98B $6.76B 36% Video Game Accessories $130.81M $120.19 -8% $1.40B $1.65B 18% Originally Posted by Anita Frazier, NPD Analyst: Overall: "The video games industry grew an impressive 18% year-over-year in the first month of the critical fourth quarter. With 10-months under its belt, the video games industry is still poised to top $22B in annual sales in 2008." "The sales results are mixed this month, however. The console portion of the market made significant gains at 26% across hardware, software and accessories, while the portable side of the market stalled, declining 14%. Year-to-date the portable segment of the market is still up 7%." Hardware: "The greater supply of Wii hardware at retail is evident in the sales figures for the month with the Wii enjoying its best sales month outside of last November and December." "The price reduction on the Xbox 360 is paying dividends at retail as the platform realized a 7% unit sales increase over September. Keeping in mind that September was a 5-week month while October had four, the sales pace increased 33%." "The PS3 realized the greatest year-over-year monthly unit sales increase at 57%." Software: "Console software sales realized the greatest percentage gain year-over-year of any category. This month, Fable II captured the top spot selling 790K units across the standard and limited edition SKU's." "The expanding variety of content available for consumers to play is clearly paying off for the industry. Looking at the top 10 games for the month, half are "M" rated games while the other half are "E" rated games and they span disparate genres. There is something for everyone on this list" Accessories: "Accessory sales are down for the month but we should expect this category to pick up again with the anticipated increases in hardware sales for the holidays." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Tonner I put the hardware in sales order if you wonder why I did an edit. As for the NPD's The guy who was on game trailers Bonus Round a few weeks back saying Fable II would fall in the cracks, must feel like an idiot now Also GH: World Tour does not show up at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 360 DEAD SPACE ELECTRONIC ARTS Oct-08 10 193K A lot lower then I was expecting after all the positive praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Also GH: World Tour does not show up at all Apparently there's 12 different SKUs to split up the sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Dead Space at 200k is disappointing as hell. The game deserves far more success and I never thought I would be saying that about an EA game. Meanwhile the Wii sells upwards of 800k units in the month... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Brian, its until saturday Nov 1st. So it's a little less then a week for GH numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 That is a lot of Wiis. I suspect it will sell well over a million in November as long as the supplies are there. MS seems to be securing their hold on second place with almost doubling the PS3 sales, and erasing any lead in the Year to Date totals in North America that the PS3 had over the 360. That LBP number seems rather disappointing considering all the positive press it is receiving. I also thought Fallout 3 would do better but the PS3 version did not crack the top ten (although the PC may have sold quite a bit also!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonner Cyn Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Joey - No problem. I just copied and pasted what I saw at NeoGAF so its all good to me. I'm hoping to see a little more info before the end of my work day. There has to be some numbers for GH/RB to report. Still, even with the number of sku's on those games, the fact that they could not get in the top 10 - and GH releasing that month - has to be considered bad news by their camps. With those hardware numbers, the 360 now has about a 50,000 lead in consoles sold over the PS3. The price drop has to be the main factor here, though the pretty solid/strong list of titles available for the 360 in October (and November) contributed as well. Will the difference be even greater in November? Could be, as I would contend that Gears will clearly outperform Resistance 2 and the cross-platform games will still be heavily slanted towards the 360. The Wii just keeps selling. I am starting to see it much more often in stores so either demand is decreasing or the supply is catching up. As I think November will see Wii sales over 1 mil, I don't think there is a demand issue (even if I have no interest). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Yeah 360 US YTD has now passed the PS3 because of October. Fallout 3 numbers are good as they came out with only a few days left in the month. Dead Space Number is a bit sad. Thought it would sell more Wii Music not there either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonner Cyn Posted November 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Shamelessly stolen from the NeoGAF forums again: Additional numbers: Wii Music - 81K GHWT (all SKUS) - 534K RB2 (LTD) - 600K Source: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/npd-wii-fable-ii-fuel-sales-of-131-billion-in-october-for-us-game-industry/?biz=1&page=1 Those GH & RB numbers look a bit better, though it does seem like the honeymoon may be over with that genre of game. Looking at the article in the link, it does appear that those numbers include all platforms. So, it seems likely that the Guitar Hero brand will still outsell Rock Band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I have to say there is nothing funnier then reading the NPD thread at Neogaf every month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 For comparison, when Guitar Hero III went on sale in September 2007, bundles for the game landed in second, third, fourth, and eighth place, with all selling more than 230,000 copies apiece. Activision has to be very disappointed. That is great for Fable II. Midnight Club and Far Cry 2 also missing from top 10. It is possible the one week delay hurt LBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Boo, everybody should be buying Dead Space. I don't care if you play it, but those numbers are just wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 For some interesting context, here's last year's October HW NPD sales: Wii: 519K DS: 458K 360: 366K PSP: 286K PS3: 184K PSP: 121K So a year on, everything bar the Wii is effectively unchanged. The 360 price drop made little immediate difference year on year. Next month will be a very interesting month for the games industry - hardware & software sales typically leap up in November but how will they do in a recession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covak Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I wonder what the bonuses are like at Nintendo these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 For some interesting context, here's last year's October HW NPD sales: Yeah, and its crazy that the 360 was actually higher, as Halo 3 came out right at the end of Sept which gave it a bump back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Don't forget, Rock Band 2 sold a good amount of copies in September as well. Fable 2 number is much larger than I thought. SOCOM number is better than I thought. LBP number is not as good as I thought. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 yeah RB2 sold 363,000 copies last month on 360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Carbine Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Courtesy of Bill Harris: From Sony's press release in response to the NPD numbers (thanks Kotaku):PLAYSTATION?3 (PS3?) continued its positive momentum in October' date=' with 190K hardware units sold, a 90% growth year-to-date. This represents an increase of 56% when compared to October 2007, during which SCEA introduced a price cut for PS3. Tell me they didn't just try to do that. Take a look at this sentence: This represents an increase of 56% when compared to October 2007, during which SCEA introduced a price cut for PS3. They're not talking about the ACTUAL price cut, which came November 2. They're talking about the PRESS RELEASE on October 18 of last year announcing the price cut. So really, they're comparing this year's sales to the month when no one bought a PS3 for the last two weeks unless they were clinically insane. In other words, it's the easiest possible compare imaginable. By the way the press release reads, though, you'd think October was the month when the actual price cut took place and tons of units were sold--the toughest possible compare. That is some outstandingly high-level dickery. You know when companies deceive? When they feel like they have to. That's all you need to know about how Sony perceives their own results for October.[/quote']I don't usually comment in the sales threads but I ran across this going through my feedreader and I thought this was well put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I dont really think that's "dickery" They're just doing what they have to do to spin horrible numbers. I really hope Bill doesnt give too much weight to company press releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Carbine Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 I dont really think that's "dickery" They're just doing what they have to do to spin horrible numbers. I really hope Bill doesnt give too much weight to company press releases.I'd say it's both. Just something to keep in mind when these "56% increase" quotes are thrown around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Bill Harris has a definite bias if you read his blog regularly and that needs to be kept in mind when he analyzes NPD etc. His sales analysis from last month for example had a number of holes in it compared to the likes of GamaSutra's monthly column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Carbine Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Bill Harris has a definite bias if you read his blog regularly and that needs to be kept in mind when he analyzes NPD etc. His sales analysis from last month for example had a number of holes in it compared to the likes of GamaSutra's monthly column.I read it but I hadn't noticed any bias but I don't generally read them in much depth. What bias do you think he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zot Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 GMC and Ford should throw in a Wii with every car sold, economy saved! That thing sells better than the Sham-wow, I just can't believe the legs that system has. Of course, it is also played every single day in our household by either the 7 or 5 yr old, but honestly I almost never pick the controller up. Are these new sales for kids, grandparents, or ??? Amazing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dead Space at 200k is disappointing as hell. The game deserves far more success and I never thought I would be saying that about an EA game. And people wonder why EA "sequelizes" and " licensed-property-izes" itself to death and, until recently, wouldn't risk much in the way of original IP. They can't win for losing. Mind you, I didn't buy "Dead Space" -- survival horror isn't my cup of tea -- but it is rather disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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