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I love Acura's from the inside but they have taken the "beak" design too far in recent models. Still, they are great cars and perform quite well.

 

I may be losing my company car soon so buying a car is looking like a distinct posibility. I have always financed through the dealership with the thinking that I could take advantage of any specials (and, frankly, because it's just easy). I'm curious if anyone has thoughts on giving my bank a shot before going to the dealer?

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I love Acura's from the inside but they have taken the "beak" design too far in recent models.

Yeah, I strongly dislike the big honking grill they are sticking on every model these days.

 

I'm curious if anyone has thoughts on giving my bank a shot before going to the dealer?

Try a good credit union. It's always nice to walk into the dealer with your credit ready to go, if the dealer can beat it, so be it. I used the Pentagon Federal Credit Union (penfed.org) on my most recent purchase and they were awesome both with the rate and their service...anybody can join, I have nothing to do with the military and don't live anywhere near a branch.

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Yep, if you have great credit, a Credit Union can usually smash whatever the dealer has to offer.

 

BTW - I'm now driving a 2010 Subaru Legacy and it's great. I get about 27-30 MPGs on average.

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That is a major improvement over stock. Good buy.

 

I'm now driving a 2010 Subaru Legacy and it's great. I get about 27-30 MPGs on average.

 

The newer Legacy is a nice looking car. I don't think I could walk into a Subaru dealer and make it past the WRX though. ;)

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The newer Legacy is a nice looking car. I don't think I could walk into a Subaru dealer and make it past the WRX though. ;)

My sister calls it my grandpa car, but it's super comfortable and has plenty of room to carry 4 adults. Plus it has AWD, 5 star crash all around, and can get up and go.

 

I've always wanted an STi, but I'm just not ready to drop over 30k for a car at this point in my life.

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I really really like the Legacy GT. Too bad it's way overpriced here in Canada. I played around with a 2009 GT when I was in Rochester and had a blast. I have an Impreza hatch as my daily driver which I bought from Rochester.

 

Picked up the TL yesterday and it's quite a nice car. Had to fly to Montreal for work today and back home tomorrow so I brought the manual with me. Quite a lot to read!

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If anyone is interested in an owning an electrical vehicle, Nissan is giving some great incentives on the new Nissan Leaf...

 

Nissan Delivers Affordable Solutions for Purchase, Lease of All-electric Nissan LEAF™

 

As low as $25,280 ($32,780 MSRP minus up to $7,500 federal tax credit)

Lease world's first mass-marketed EV for $349 per month

 

FRANKLIN, Tenn. (March 30, 2010) - Nissan North America, Inc. (NNA) today announced U.S. pricing for the 2011 Nissan LEAF electric vehicle, which becomes available for purchase or lease at Nissan dealers in select markets in December and nationwide in 2011. Nissan will begin taking consumer reservations for the Nissan LEAF April 20.

 

Including the $7,500 federal tax credit for which the Nissan LEAF will be fully eligible, the consumer's after-tax net value of the vehicle will be $25,280. The Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price *(MSRP) for the 2011 all-electric, zero-emission Nissan LEAF is $32,780, which includes three years of roadside assistance. Additionally, there is an array of state and local incentives that may further defray the costs and increase the benefits of owning and charging a Nissan LEAF - such as a $5,000 statewide tax rebate in California; a $5,000 tax credit in Georgia; a $1,500 tax credit in Oregon; and carpool-lane access in some states, including California.

 

As a result of aggressive pricing and the availability of the $7,500 federal tax credit whose benefit is immediately included, Nissan will be able to offer a monthly lease payment beginning at $349, not including state or local incentives, which could further reduce the net cost of the Nissan LEAF.

 

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The vehicle at the standard SV trim level is well-equipped with a variety of standard features, including an advanced navigation system and Internet/smart phone connectivity to the vehicle, including pre-heat/pre-cool and charging control. Nissan LEAF is equipped with energy-efficient LED headlights and makes extensive use of recycled and recyclable materials, such as seat fabric, instrument panel materials, and front- and rear-bumper fascias. Other standard amenities include Bluetooth connectivity; Intelligent-key with push button start; Sirius/XM satellite radio capabilities and roadside assistance. Safety features include vehicle dynamic control (stability control), traction control and six airbags. The SL trim level, available for an additional $940 (MSRP), adds features including rearview monitor, solar panel spoiler, fog lights, and automatic headlights.

 

Reservations & Purchase

 

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* Nissan begins accepting reservations on April 20 first from people who have signed up on NissanUSA.com, and, after a brief introductory period, to all interested consumers.

* Consumers will be required to pay a $99 reservation fee, which is fully refundable.

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* Rollout to select markets begins in December, with nationwide availability in 2011.

 

Charging Equipment

 

In tandem with the purchase process, Nissan will offer personal charging docks, which operate on a 220-volt supply, as well as their installation. Nissan is providing these home-charging stations, which will be built and installed by AeroVironment, as part of a one-stop-shop process that includes a home assessment.

 

* The average cost for the charging dock plus installation will be $2,200.

* Charging dock and installation are eligible for a 50 percent federal tax credit up to $2,000.

* Using current national electricity averages, Nissan LEAF will cost less than $3 to "fill up."

* Nissan LEAF also will be the sole vehicle available as part of The EV Project, which is led by EV infrastructure provider eTec, a division of ECOtality, and will provide free home-charging stations and installation for up to 4,700 Nissan LEAF owners in those markets.

 

In North America, Nissan's operations include automotive design, engineering, consumer and corporate financing, sales and marketing, distribution and manufacturing. Nissan is dedicated to improving the environment under the Nissan Green Program 2010, whose key priorities are reducing CO2 emissions, cutting other emissions and increasing recycling.

 

http://www.nissanusa.com/leaf-electric-car/news.jsp#/news

 

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Why are they all freaking hatchbacks?

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Or of creating zero emissions while driving

 

At least they are being somewhat honest about this coal-powered car. It has zero emissions WHILE DRIVING.

 

 

Carlos.

<yeah, I know, spoken like a true BigOil shill>

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At least they are being somewhat honest about this coal-powered car. It has zero emissions WHILE DRIVING.

Ummm...just FYI, not every part of the country/world uses coal-powered plants. Not to mention, it's a whole lot easier to retrofit a single powerplant than thousands of cars when they are on the road.

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Yep, if you have great credit, a Credit Union can usually smash whatever the dealer has to offer

Sometimes this is true. Sometimes not. It's best to shop around especially if you can get 0% for 60 months. You can't beat that at a CU.

 

I like the Acura but it has 2 big strikes against it for me. 1) it's a technology first car. Drivers car second. 2) it's FWD or AWD. It needs to be a proper RWD car especially if it wants to be a serious player in that market which is dominated by RWD cars such as Cadillac, Audi, BMW and Lexus (all RWD). With FWD and that much power, you get torque steer out the ass. That's never good. The tech part is an interesting trade off. It's rather complicated to operate IMO and over done. The console on the Honda/Acura line is just too busy. They need to simplify it but still keep all the gadgets. That is possible.

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After test driving about 5 differnet vehicles, I settled on this last night. Its my first ever Truck. I've always been a car guy, but I just loved the ride of this so much. Plus I only work about 3 miles from home, so gas isn't too much of an issue.

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2010 Dodge Ram 1500 TRX 4x4

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I'll give you the FWD argument, but not the AWD argument.

 

Agreed. And torque steer is much less a problem in well designed FWD cars due to mechanical or electronic LSD's. Granted, there are cars (Mazdaspeed 3) where it's still an issue but it's a rare problem in Acrua's class.

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2010 Dodge Ram 1500 TRX 4x4
Nice truck. We are looking at buying a pick up later this year also. I need the space in the winter for all our ski and tuning equipment.

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Once you go AWD you don't go back. At least that's my opinion.

 

This. Which is the reason why we switched the FWD 2006 TL with the 2010 SH-AWD one. The Impreza in winter made such a huge difference that I had to change to SH-AWD since it's available.

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I know it's not a positive brand according to a few here but the new 2011 Kia Optima looks pretty damned slick.

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/01/2011-kia-optima-new-york-2010-reveal/

 

Apparently, Kia hired Audi designer Peter Schreyer which is why they're new lineup of vehicles LOOK so much better. The Optima apparently shares a lot of architecture with the Sonata.

 

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/07/26-peter-schreyer-kia-design/

 

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It looks much better than the new Sonota (which is a big improvement as well). The new 2 liter turbo (270 HP) engine sounds fun too.

I'm impressed with Hyundai/Kia. Like Ford, they are really taking advantage of problems at GM and Toyota to gain market share. It's interesting to watch them aggressively climb in mindshare while so many others (Honda, Nissan) keep doing business as usual.

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I guess this thread has been hijacked many times already. :D Got to drive the new car around this weekend and really enjoyed it. Planning on getting 20" rims, new grill and lowering this summer.

 

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Congratulations!

 

I love those wheels (big fan of 5-spoke wheels) but agree 20" would look sharp. What size are those? 18"?

Would you really need to lower the car to fill the wheel wells with 20" wheels?

 

I look forward to pics as you add the upgrades.

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Yeah, those are 18's. Even if I get 20's, the overall size will not change. The tires will just be lower profile to keep the speedo the same. As of now there's quite a gap there. Just need to lower it a little bit.

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