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I think the Gerald Undone video is more technically revealing, but here's Philip Bloom's 75 minute A7SIII review which boasts 100% more cat content:

 

 

It's really very impressive. Whatever Bloom and Gerald Undone noticed at 16,000 iso is really intriguing as Sony insist it's not a dual ISO sensor. With the useable dynamic range of 13 stops as Gerald Undone measured (using the same methods Cinema 5D use), it does put it ahead of several cinema cameras like the Canon 'C' cameras and the Black Magic cameras.

 

So this would certainly top a shortlist of video cameras that have my interest, next to a Black Magic 4k. The price differential between the two is enormous (£1200 for the Black Magic, and £3800 for the Sony in the UK), but the Sony is certainly more versatile feature wise both internally an externally, even though both would require a number of accessories to kit out for a rig. I think there's good argument for still wanting to partner a Atomos Ninja V with the A7S3, even if not wanting to record out to RAW, at least for those who'd prefer to stick to Pro Res workflows. It's weird that the Sony still opts to drop internal DCI 4K and various monitoring features, but maybe they're assuming people will hook up external monitors anyway (at least for the monitoring. Even my Fuji X100V does DCI 4K so I don't know why the Sony doesn't). 

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Top tip: even if it seems to be working fine, don’t put your wet camera away in your wet bag, throw it in the boot of the car and forget it until morning. Currently waiting to see if the dehumidifier

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Bought my first 24-70/2.8 today (not my photo)   Actually my first f/2.8 zoom. I've mostly used primes in the past.    Lost of Canon news coming up this month. Sony and N

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On 7/28/2020 at 4:43 PM, Starhawk said:

 

These are the three form factors:

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Some more info: https://petapixel.com/2019/03/13/cfexpress-memory-cards-will-come-in-three-different-sizes/

 

I use an XQD card, and while it's a defunct standard, the form factor is the same as CFexpress Type B. That's what's in the Canon R5 (and Type B may be needed there for 8k, not sure). The question I had was how camera manufactures were going to deal with dual CFexpress cards. Type B was all that was out there, so would they do 1 Type B and a 1 SD Card? That seemed most l likely to me, but Sony pretty much implemented it perfectly pushing Type A.

 

Aside from the sheer audacity of asking people whether they remember "that Keanu Reeves movie from the 90s when they're on the bus," I found this to be a helpful video when it comes to knowing what codec, resolution and frame rate options will be available to A7SIII users depending on the card type used. 

 

 

It's a shame the camera cannot just save out to a Samsung T5 over USB-C like a Blackmagic 4k can. 2000x v90 128GB Lexar Cards are about £195 each here, so let's say £400 for two. An Atomos Ninja V is £630, and another £70 for a Samsung 500GB desktop SSD to shove inside of it might be the better investment vs recording internally for the extra £300 (not only for the storage benefit, but the general benefit of external monitoring, prores and prores raw options).

 

I wonder how much time you could get on a 64GB card if recording XAVCS I-4k 10bit 4:2:2 at 24p. 

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Found some data rate nerdiness:

 

 

https://www.proav.co.uk/videos/sony-a7s-iii-depth-look-data-rates/

 

So 240Mbps for XAVCS I-4k 10bit 4:2:2 at 24p would I guess be just over 35mins on a 64GB card? 

 

Tricky decision if trying to decide which storage route to start off with. Ideally one would want to invest in both internal and external recording, both for safety but also for flexibility on occasions when roaming about with an external monitor isn't practical. Still, it'd be £400 for a couple of 128GB Lexar V90 SD cards, £500 for a couple of Sony 128GB TOUGH V90 SD Cards, or £800 for a pair of 160GB Sony TOUCH CF Type A cards. Again, an Atomos Ninja external display/recorder + a 500GB Samsung SSD would come in at around £700 (the Ninja V cannot do 4k/120p though, either compressed or RAW. It will do HD/120p, but otherwise tops out at 4k/60). 

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Some A7S III straight out of camera SLOG3 files have been made available by Jacques Crafford who shot a promo with the camera should anyone wish to take a look at them:

 

 

 

Files are here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kYjaH84X9871d8-Rmuj9DOXfmtAH6V6i?fbclid=IwAR3LPZ7njD6UadrWtejYeGQHq5hfTCNOKXBrdliOZ4w4cvrja5IrzGgRnhY

 

Remember those are S-LOG3 files, so are nice and flat ready for colour grading. The h.264 stuff seems to run fine on my old Macbook Pro. It struggles with Sony's H.265 files though, but that didn't surprise me (a conversion to prores may overcome that though). Had to use VLC as Quicktime doesn't like them.

 

The internal all-I codec does seem to be really, really good and flexible. The only downside, as is known from Bloom's review, is that you cannot disable internal noise reduction if recording internally (externally will be clean) but that's likely to only manifest in its most obvious and ugly form under extraordinarily challenging circumstances when ramping up the ISO dramatically. 

 

 

I was also a little confused with my SD card research last week. Apparently you can do everything up to and including XAVC-HS based 100/120p  onto a v90 speed SD Card. The one codec that requires the CF Type A speeds is if you're doing XAVC-S I S&Q (which appears to be the only ALL-I option for 100p/120p). This is actually clarified in Bloom's review. Not sure why/how I glossed past it. In short, it seems you'd really only need the Type A cards for VERY specialist reasons that demand maximum quality for slow motion capture. 

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I can't wait to get back out again to shoot. It's been 23 weeks of my backyard combined with constant buying and selling on Fred Miranda and eBay. Because yes, half the fun right now is trying new gear. But how many shots of my grape vines and bougainvillea plants can I take?

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1 hour ago, Starhawk said:

I sold 4 lenses recently on eBay (also the first time I'd ever sold a lens) and was surprised how quickly they went and how many view the listings got compared to other things.

I probably bought them.

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I have a lens that I got late last year, used, that's actually increased in value this year (I'm guessing the retail price new probably received a bump and so the used value rose with it). 

 

I don't really know anyone buying camera equipment right now outside of youtubers. I'm definitely not making any video focused purchases that currently have my interest until next year. 

 

I've been doing the numbers on a Black Magic 4k camera rig and it's quite eye opening how you can kit that out with cage accessories, external monitor, 1tb ssd, a good sigma aps-c lens and metabones adapter....etc, for not much more than the cost of an A7S III body alone. The Sony is unquestionably more versatile as a video camera, but the gulf in price is colossal. The one snag I hit, though I wasn't remotely surprised, is that my old Macbook Pro struggles with the 4k BRAW codec having tested the files at various compression rates, and while the camera shoots 4k Prores it does not do Prores RAW since Black Magic would sooner push their own Raw codec. I'd have to work with proxies if I went that route in which case, shoot BRAW, make minor corrections in Da vinci Resolve (which would basically have to be done without being able to view clips in motion since my computer just can't run them in real time), then feed out a prores transcode to use final cut for editing.  

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Well, it’s not completely back yet, as it’s struggling to communicate with lenses, but by sticking a dumb manual Holga on the front, I now have a camera that’s dried out enough to power on, take a photo and record it to a memory card again. Hoping if I give it a bit longer it’ll come back 100%.  

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I hadn't really had it out in the wet quite so much before, but yes - it's leaving it in a bag trapped with moist air overnight, and more specifically doing all that without removing the battery. If that's the one thing everyone should take away, it's that a bit of rain isn't the worry, it's leaving the battery and memory card in once you get out of the rain.

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Are any of you interested in the Fuji 50/1? I don't shoot much wider than f2 most of the time so I think it would just weigh me down. Having said that, I would rebuy the 16/1.4 before getting the 16/2.8 because I know how much "character" it has in my eyes and the close focus ability is a big plus. So if I see enough evidence that the 50/1's character is unique enough I would consider adding it to the kit.

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Saw a few videos for it showing up in my feed I haven't watched yet. I generally like fast lenses for portraiture and that's a pretty good focal length in APSC while still mid-range enough for other use. Nikon has a 50/1.2 coming out soon I'm really curious to see how it performs.  

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1.0 50mm on an aps-c would make it roughly equivalent to a 75mm 1.4 on a full frame, right? It seems to be Fuji's best 50 to date optically across the board and has weather sealing, so on that basis alone it's possibly worth paying extra for over the 56 1.2. 

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Yet another Sony camera is on the way apparently. This time the A7C, something of a hybrid of A7III and A7SIII specs in a smaller form factor similar to the A6600. 

 

Alleged specs:

  • Similar Sony A7III specs with 24MP sensor
  • It has the same A7sIII fully articulating screen
  • autofocus algorithm is the one from the A7sIII
  • 4k30p
  • body shape similar to the A6600 with EVF in the corner (camera is only slightly bigger)
  • it has IBIS
  • The camera will be marketed for vloggers and youtubers
  • Battery is NP-FZ100, 
  • USB is Type-C.
  • it has a single SD card slot
  • It has both a mic-in and a headphone jack
  • Wi-Fi (11a/b/g/n/ac) and Bluetooth
  • price will be above A7III (2.100 Euro)

 

I wonder how far off an A7 IV announcement could be. 

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Oh, I meant to say - after further reading around, it seems the AF problem I was worried about on the Canon 90D comes down to two things, both of which are OK really:

 

1) The face detection AI thing is on by default whenever you’re using focus groups rather than individual points. And when people looked carefully at *why* it had refused to focus on the bird/car/back of head in the frame, it’s spotted something that looks like a face behind it. 
 

2) The crop sensor’s resolution is equivalent to something like 80MP on a Full Frame. And so even some lenses Canon say were sharp enough to resolve on a 5DS sensor aren’t able to deliver enough detail to make the most of it, and so people think it’s soft. Chuck a 24-70mm f/4 L on there for example, and you’re golden. 

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Image of the A7c

 

Sony-A7c-3.jpg

 

Sony-A7c-2.jpg

 

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com

 

Apparently it has the same cooling system as the A7sIII. So with that, the A7sIII flip screen and some other features like the A7sIII's auto focus (it also has IBIS according to reports), it's looking like a nice hybrid of the A7III and A7sIII for those wanting a small full frame photo and video camera... which really makes me curious about the A7IV's features whenever it should appear. The A7c is expected to do 10bit 4k but only up to 30fps. 60 would be nice but perhaps there is risk of overheating in the smaller body (my X100v has the same limitation).

 

Official announcement is tomorrow. 

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