rustyjaw Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I'm very interested in this franchise, and now that #7 is due out next week, I'm once again considering getting it. I must say that I'm not a big soccer fan, and I don't play soccer games (although I did play in a soccer league as a kid). What really interests me most about this game is the universally glowing reviews, it seems that everyone in the know considers this to be the ultimate in soccer video gaming. I've also heard that it's a difficult game, but can those of you who have played it enumerate on that? Would you recommend it to a fair-weather fan of the sport? Is the difficulty adjustable for novices? Or is this strictly for hardcore fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris F Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I too am very interested in this series. I'm curious as to if the game has real teams/players. I know it's the gameplay that counts, but I always find that the inclusion of real teams makes the game more immersive. My father loves soccer, and I was considering picking this up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Hmmm tricky question to answer.. but i'd definitely recommend it as it is by far the best soccer game available. It's one of those games that you can play as a complete novice and still enjoy though to really get the most out of it you need to give it some serious time.. it's not as instantly accessible as FIFA but has far more depth and plays a lot more like 'real' soccer, with two decent players it's very rare to get a 10-7 scoreline like it's easy to do in FIFA. It's very realistic so 1-1 games and 0-0 scorelines happen a lot, just like the real thing. If you want an arcadey quick footy fix then pick up FIFA but if you want something that gets better the more you play it and has a lot more realism in the actual gameplay the get Winning Eleven without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I've got Winning Eleven 6 and definitely plan on picking up 7. As Paul said, if you want a soccer game that you can jump into fairly easily, FIFA is probably going to be the better choice, but if you're looking for the ultimate (IMO) in gameplay and all around better experience, look no further than the Winning Eleven series. There have also been rumors that the Winning Eleven series may be showing up on the Xbox as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainl Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 My one caveat about it is that I'm not any good at the series. Actually, other than some slightly fancier graphics, I prefer the ISS Pro Evolution from the PS1, before they introduced too many subtle nuances I can't cope with and increased the difficulty through the roof. But thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoiceStriker Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I bought Winning Eleven 6 and FIFA 2003 within a week of each other, and let me say that I ended up playing about 20 hours of WE6 before getting distracted by something else, and to date I've played half an hour of FIFA. That's right, I spent $30 on FIFA and played it for HALF AN HOUR! Seriously though, I haven't played WE7 yet, but I'll try to answer your questions based on what I played of WE6: I've also heard that it's a difficult game, but can those of you who have played it enumerate on that? It is difficult, but not unfairly so. When you lose you can usually see how you went wrong. It's also, as others have mentioned, difficult to score goals, which can be frustrating, but is certainly much more realistic. Would you recommend it to a fair-weather fan of the sport? That's a tough one. If you're not really a big soccer fan I can't imagine you getting too excited about it. Do you watch soccer when it's on TV? Ever been to any MLS games? It just seems like it might be a little overwhelming for someone who isn't really into the sport. It's definitely not just a "pick-up-and-play" type of game. Is the difficulty adjustable for novices? Or is this strictly for hardcore fans? WE6 was adjustable, yes - I believe there were four or five difficulty settings... I'd check but I've loaned the game to a friend right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crippler Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 The game is packed with tutorials and also has lots of difficulty levels to ease you in, so yes you should go with Winning Eleven 7 over Fifa 2004 imo. Fifa 2004 is a short-lived game with horrid controls, and while it has good pick up and play elements, it is riddled with flaws that make spending any serious time with it pointless, and by that time you could be somewhat proficient @ Winning Eleven 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 From what I've read the players in WE7 are real, but the teams are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted February 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 It's looking like a winner then. I expect a learning curve. I don't watch Soccer at all, but I find that a lot of the time, if a game is good and well crafted, then it's simply a good game and can be enjoyed on that level. It's kind of like Volleyball, I never watch it, but I like volleyball a good game anyway. Thanks for the input so far everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJobPrime Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 I just picked up WE7 and must say that it's everything I was expecting (which is good - really good). I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not someone somewhere has made a general team update that has all the correct names and such, at least for the club teams? I know there are a LOT of soccer fans out there, and I'm hoping someone has already done all the work, me being lazy and all FreakTornado, I think the game is great even for occasional soccer watchers such as myself. It's got fantastic control, top-notch AI, and amazingly realistic goals that make you want to save the replays all the time. If you just like good video games no matter what the genre, this is surely one to get. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 If you've got the PC version then you can get name/kit/stadium updates etc from here: http://www.proevolutionline.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJobPrime Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Thanks Paul. Unfortunately I only have the PS2 version. I know there are some option file saves that you can download to the PS2 with a SharkPort. I'll just keep looking. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spubiga Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 I just got WE7 a couple of days ago, and it's tough. I have WE6 also, and don't remember it being quite so frustratingly difficult (although I haven't played it in a while and I might have forgotten how tough it was). Maybe my frustration is that even though the US squad ended last year towards the top of the FIFA rankings (somewhere in the top 20), they are still one of the worst teams in the game. With that high of an international ranking, you'd think they'd be a little better in the game. I did try playing as Brazil and only lost 1-0 instead of my usual 4-0 when I play as the US. I guess I need more practice. Aaron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddJobPrime Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Aaron, It's good to know that I'm not the only one getting my but kicked on the same difficulty level as last year. It's tougher this year, for sure. The AI appears to be significantly better with regards to individual player abilities. It has already forced me to play smarter defense though, so I guess that's a good thing. I think practice really is the key. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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