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Originally posted by Pharmboy@Aug 24 2004, 06:34 PM

C'mon, who wouldn't want to see them adapt the Zahn books for three movies? 8)

Me. :P I tried to re-read that trilogy a couple months ago and couldn't get through 100 pages.

 

I'd be tempted to say that the well is dry, but I've seen some good story-telling in Star Wars Tales, so it can be done.

 

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I tried to re-read that trilogy a couple months ago and couldn't get through 100 pages.

 

I thought it would have been great when it first came out, and now I'm re-reading it and it's no where near as good as I thought it was then.

 

I'd settle for a whole new trilogy with some of the basic concepts of the Zahn books. Leia and Han having the twins for one.

 

Glen

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I never read the first book, maybe that's what's saving me :green:.

 

Ironically I felt that Zahn emulated George in a lot of ways, as his return to the Star Wars universe was nowhere near as good as his initial foray. If the books are that hard to slog through for you guys, that actually signals a good thing to me; you can cut out loads of chaff and still get the core gist of the books.

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I'd be happy if they ended the movies with Revenge of the Sith. The real story here is the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Since that obviously wouldn't play a part in the sequel trilogy, I don't think there's any need for more movies beyond Return of the Jedi.

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Originally posted by J.Fo@Aug 24 2004, 07:54 PM

I'd be happy if they ended the movies with Revenge of the Sith. The real story here is the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Since that obviously wouldn't play a part in the sequel trilogy, I don't think there's any need for more movies beyond Return of the Jedi.

I for one would be happy to see a new series of movies in the same universe but not necessarily the same characters.

 

Take, for example, the Jedi Knight games. I love the idea of Kyle Katarn's struggle to come to terms with both sides of the Force only to decide that the middle road is best. Luke Skywalker and other characters appear only briefly to tie in the original story but it could really stand on its own.

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Originally posted by Robot Monkey@Aug 24 2004, 05:50 PM

I tried to re-read that trilogy a couple months ago and couldn't get through 100 pages.

I made it through the first book but was left with no desire to read any further than that :) I don't remember much of it but I think among my complaints was that Zahn seemed to base too much of his characterization on Return of the Jedi - Luke does nothing but brood, Han is a goddamned moron, Leia...just kind of hangs around. And Thrawn did little for me as a villain as I didn't find him charismatic and I thought his routine of conquering by surrounding himself with art was silly :) Plus, I dislike the Imperial Remnant in general. I want new villains, not old villains who have become beaten down underdogs.

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Originally posted by Daniel Brecher@Aug 25 2004, 06:04 AM

I still maintain that not even the prequels needed to be made.

 

SACRILEGE!!! :shock:

 

I for one have enjoyed the prequels and would invite more episodes. But I am running out of room for all the merchandise I keep buying. :green:

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SACRILEGE!!!

 

Nonsense. :) Don't get me wrong, I can enjoy watching the prequels, but I can't think of a single element about them that has proved they needed to exist as films. Consider that the most interesting parts of the story we knew already from dialogue in the classic trilogy, and anything new to the story is tedious (trade disputes) or flawed ideas thought up on a whim (Jango/Boba Fett clone army...etc).... Then there are those elements in the prequels that contradict those of the classic trilogy.

 

Fans had almost twenty years to build up our own image of the back story, and it turned out their ideas and visions outdid those of Lucas? own. Some things were perhaps best left untold in my opinion, left as mystery.

 

Had he stuck more to his original idea for the prequels, and made them in the late eighties I think we could have had something significantly more interesting, but to me as it stands, with the prequels as they are we?ve had films that are fun in places, but simply not interesting.

 

I?ve been fortunate enough to have gone over the DVD box set recently, and people are delusional if they truly believe the prequels and classic trilogy (with its tweaks and all) can exist as one series. The two trilogies are so different [beyond just the effects] that I can?t watch the classic trilogy thinking back to elements set up in the prequels and how they?re meant to relate to the happenings IV, V and VI? Of course, you?re forced to try to do so now with Hayden Christensen dropped into Jedi, but still.

 

I think III will be the best prequel, purely because it?s what we?ve wanted to see for so long. I?m sure the Obi wan and Anakin fight will be exciting and ?cool? but whether we need to see it is another matter. Again I?d argue we don?t, but we?ll get a kick out of Vader being back on the cinema screen for fifteen minutes for whatever that may be worth (in reality, probably not much when we reflect back on it some months after the movie's release).

 

All the "cool" bits about the prequels I have found to be very short lived in their coolness and purely restrained to the moment surrounding the fun of each films release. We smiled at the double ended lightsaber, we giggled at the talk of the 'ultimate weapon' and 3D death star graphic, we got a kick out of hearing the Imperial March in full blast once more, but all that soon wares off. A lot of people were so hyped over seeing Yoda dueling, and now many look back to see how absurd it really seems (again especially if you watch the classic trilogy and you feel you're meant to relate both trilogys together)...

 

I?m just burnt out on the whole thing I suppose, though it?s not specifically related to Star Wars. With anything, if it is promoted and exploited and discussed to absurd lengths everywhere I turn then my interest will always begin to wane. Force.net is probably reaching with the news given it?s a quiet period for any information about Episode III, it?s not the first time a ?sequel trilogy? rumour exactly like this one has come up? With Star Wars, enough now I say. Lucas has done some real reaching in trying to make a back story stretch over three films as it is, so I?d fear the results for a sequel trilogy could be even more lifeless and hastily thrown together.

 

I'm a Star Wars fan, but a realist at the same time. :) Just my two pence on the whole issue.

 

Dan

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Originally posted by J.Fo@Aug 24 2004, 09:54 PM

I'd be happy if they ended the movies with Revenge of the Sith. The real story here is the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. Since that obviously wouldn't play a part in the sequel trilogy, I don't think there's any need for more movies beyond Return of the Jedi.

Ahmen no need to tarnish the saga

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No such thing exists.

 

You could be right. I've no idea what I am then (though I'm sure fans who disagree strongly with what I said above can think of a few names. :) )....

 

Dan

 

PS: Don't know if anyone saw, but both Ewok movies, the Droids cartoon series and the Ewoks cartoon series have been announced for release on the 23rd of November. Each disc will be a humble $15 each.

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I throw in with Dan and I'm a huge fan of the original trilogy.

 

All the prequels have lacked one thing that makes all great movies or epics: spirit. I can point to flat dialogue, bad writing, plot holes, or whatever, but the original triolgy had all these as well. But they also had a spirit of wonder at this galaxy far, far away that infected it's fans. I watched Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi and every time left the theater with a mind full of imagination.

 

Who was Boba Fett? What happened between Obi Wan and D.V.? What other cool/awesome worlds or creatures are there in this universe that I haven't even seen yet?

 

You want to crawl inside the picture and live there. You want to be a Jedi, explore the galaxy in Slave 1, and so on. The movies only hinted at a universe that is much bigger and wonderful than what you have so far seen.

 

Now contrast that with the prequels. I didn't leave the theater hating them, but that spirit was obviously missing. Instead of feeling this universe was bigger, it had somehow shrunk and become more boring. Most of the new stuff was fairly pad generic sci-fi material (a pod race?), or just plain bad science (midocondria or whatever causing the force? A clone army based on ONE genetic code?!?) The end result being I was entertained for 2 hours, but it really didn't add anything to the SW mythos for me.

 

Star Wars obviously still has legs. You need only play KOTOR to realize how much life is still in the principle material. But Lucas is past his prime, whatever he had for the first three movies is gone. So I say no to any new movies until either Lucas steps down for a better epic visionary director (Peter Jackson anyone?), or he dies and someone else makes some good delegation decisions.

 

Don't even get me started on the "new" DVDs, I hate them. Greedo did not shoot first adn he never will on my TV! Honor what made you great, don't mess with the past.

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