cane corso Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 A year ago I had my first taste of broadband (DSL). Unfortunately, we were capped at 348 download/128 upload. This was our only option so if you wanted broadband you paid for it (seriously, the monthly fees and installation were ridiculous). We moved this past Feb. and the new provider was not much better. The prices are a little better but I am still capped at 512 download/128 upload. Not anymore! I found out this week we are getting Verizon fiber-optics within the next month. They are running the cable to our houses this week. They have three different packages: 5Mbps/2Mbps - $39.95, 15Mbps/2Mbps - $49.95, and 30Mpbs/5Mbps - $199.95. I can't wait. I am sure most of you have decent speeds so this is no big deal, but I had to share my excitement. :green: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I'm jealous! We're fairly close to one of the trial areas, so once it expands across the Metroplex, I'll be signing up for it rightaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baiter Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Do you know if this is ADSL2? I've heard my company which piggy backs off of verizon is coming out w/ adsl2 soon. I hope I can get those kinds of speeds for that price. :twisted: The $39.99 price should be more then enough bandwith for any house. :tu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 No kidding. I am really jealous. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 You're extremely lucky to be getting this since most people won't see anything like this for years. P.S. You're hosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cane corso Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by Baiter@Aug 25 2004, 11:08 AMDo you know if this is ADSL2? I've heard my company which piggy backs off of verizon is coming out w/ adsl2 soon. I hope I can get those kinds of speeds for that price. :twisted: The $39.99 price should be more then enough bandwith for any house. :tu: I haven't heard it referred as such. From Verizon's site, "Verizon Fios Internet Service will use fiber-optic cable and associated electronics - instead of copper wires - to directly link residential and business customers to the Verizon network. Fiber-optic systems have been used in telecommunication networks for years, but primarily for long distance networks or for large business applications. But now the Verizon Fios Internet Service Program that we are beginning, first in Keller, will extend the capacity, speed, and quality of fiber-optics right to our customers' homes and businesses. " Not sure that really answers your question... I just noticed it is $5 cheaper if I use their phone service. :tu: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Doesn't sound like it's DSL at all, just straight fiber.... You can be assured that we're going to all be envious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I hate you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Now that sounds like a good deal. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cane corso Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 I put my fiber order in this morning. :tu: Assuming nothing goes wrong, I will be up and running in about week or so. I say this with cation b/c I have called almost every day for the past two weeks to see if it was available and last week I was told it was. I gave her all my information and at the end of the call she came back and said it wasn't available. At least this time the order was accepted but I am not holding my breath. Also, I am required to use their router (and I just purchased a new one a month or so ago). I am hoping they use Linksys and maybe they will let me use mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnemaEms Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by cane corso@Oct 4 2004, 12:56 PM I put my fiber order in this morning. :tu: Assuming nothing goes wrong, I will be up and running in about week or so. I say this with cation b/c I have called almost every day for the past two weeks to see if it was available and last week I was told it was. I gave her all my information and at the end of the call she came back and said it wasn't available. At least this time the order was accepted but I am not holding my breath. Also, I am required to use their router (and I just purchased a new one a month or so ago). I am hoping they use Linksys and maybe they will let me use mine. Todd, Being it is fiber, I highly doubt your router would work. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by RingWraith+Oct 4 2004, 02:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RingWraith @ Oct 4 2004, 02:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cane corso@Oct 4 2004, 12:56 PM I put my fiber order in this morning. :tu: Assuming nothing goes wrong, I will be up and running in about week or so. I say this with cation b/c I have called almost every day for the past two weeks to see if it was available and last week I was told it was. I gave her all my information and at the end of the call she came back and said it wasn't available. At least this time the order was accepted but I am not holding my breath. Also, I am required to use their router (and I just purchased a new one a month or so ago). I am hoping they use Linksys and maybe they will let me use mine. Todd, Being it is fiber, I highly doubt your router would work. -Dean- [/b] I'm sure he'll be able to uplink to the router (making it a switch) unless they are supplying a fiber card for the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 That is what I am assuming they are doing Scott. However, if they don't, he can still use his router as a switch, like you said. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 No the fiber only goes to his premise. The fiber is connected to a device on the side of his home called an ONT. Fiber goes in, and ethernet, up to 4 phone lines, and a cable connection come out. I believe the router provided is a D-Link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Thanks for the confirmation James. It is amazing how once in awhile you have something of substance to add. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrMike Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Question though. You get fiber up to the home, but what kind of pipe is serving each neighborhood? The connection to the switching station/box/building will be wicked fast, but then once it gets to the station you have to share with the neighborhood. My neighborhood advertised fiber to the home. I even have the conduit for the fiber attached to the side of my house going upstairs to where all my cableing is. When I moved in though a worker for the company told me not to bother. They don't have enough bandwidth to give me the 10-100mb that was advertised. I'd be lucky to get isdn speeds. So what does verizon guarantee for speeds as opposed to advertising for speeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cane corso Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by MrMike@Oct 4 2004, 03:26 PMQuestion though. You get fiber up to the home, but what kind of pipe is serving each neighborhood? The connection to the switching station/box/building will be wicked fast, but then once it gets to the station you have to share with the neighborhood. My neighborhood advertised fiber to the home. I even have the conduit for the fiber attached to the side of my house going upstairs to where all my cableing is. When I moved in though a worker for the company told me not to bother. They don't have enough bandwidth to give me the 10-100mb that was advertised. I'd be lucky to get isdn speeds. So what does verizon guarantee for speeds as opposed to advertising for speeds? Good question. I made sure that was not the case. Their website says: Bandwidth speeds are between your home or office and the Verizon central office serving your location. Currently, I have my wireless router hooked directly to the XBOX and all the computers use wireless adapters. I had trouble with ESPN 2K5 (only game I noticed problems) when I used the wireless gaming adapter, so I switched everything. I plan on keeping it this way. The router and adapters are Linksys w/ Speedbooster. So I enjoyed the little extra speed when accessing the different computers within the network. Obviously, I will give that up for faster, cheaper speeds. Verizon had some kind of "block party" this past weekend. They had a UT 2004 tournament and a bunch of other stuff. I was out of town so I didn't get to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMike Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Bandwidth speeds are between your home or office and the Verizon central office serving your location. Yeah but then what is the speeds from the verizon central office serving your location and out to the internet? I would assume that I would get the full bandwidth out to the central office and to any other home pc on the same loop as me. I would love to get 15 down 2 up for 49 bucks, but if I'm really doubtful of these newer "much faster" fiber internet plans. I will look into it though if it ever gets down here to Austin. Keep us up to date once you get it installed. I would love to know what your actual speeds are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 So what does verizon guarantee for speeds as opposed to advertising for speeds? If they are like any other provider they will not gaurentee speeds at all (at least when it comes to residential customers). If they are a DSL provider worth thier ilk though they will do thier best to make sure you are getting at the very least 80% of your rated line which is the "unspoken" rule amongst many broadband providers. In fact: Actual throughput speed will vary based on factors such as the condition of your wiring inside your location; computer configuration; network or Internet congestion; and the server speeds of Web sites you access, among other factors. Speed and uninterrupted use of the service are not guaranteed. It is being given much like any other DSL service (ie best effort). but if I'm really doubtful of these newer "much faster" fiber internet plans. Seeing as I work for a phone company and deal with this specific service (DSL) I can tell you it is very real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Any ISP will only gaurantee the bandwidth to their network as they have no control over other networks. As an extreme example, if you tried downloading a file hosted on a 56K, you're not going to be getting 5MB for obvious reasons I can tell you it is very real Yup and I'm glad there's more competition since it's driving down prices and forcing current providers to up their bandwidth to be competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Yup and I'm glad there's more competition since it's driving down prices and forcing current providers to up their bandwidth to be competitive Definitely. DSL is becoming especially important to big name telcos like Verizon and Sprint as it has become a more important revenue stream than even long distance service. I can tell you that competition from cable companies has forced us to drop our prices across the board twice over the past few months. It's becoming very cutthroat and the consumer ends up winning :tu: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cane corso Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Originally posted by FutureVoid@Oct 4 2004, 05:29 PM Yup and I'm glad there's more competition since it's driving down prices and forcing current providers to up their bandwidth to be competitive Definitely. DSL is becoming especially important to big name telcos like Verizon and Sprint as it has become a more important revenue stream than even long distance service. I can tell you that competition from cable companies has forced us to drop our prices across the board twice over the past few months. It's becoming very cutthroat and the consumer ends up winning :tu: . That's always been the problem for me....no competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 If a 100Mbps connection just isn't enough, residents in Japan can now upgrade to this. 1Gbps for $38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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