Covak Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I recently got Logitech's Z-5500 speaker system and now I can't get enough of 5.1 music. Here's what little I've got with some impressions... Metallica - The Black Album (DVD-Audio) - So powerful that going back to the CD is painful. There's some retarded "Look, we've got 3 front speakers!" panning on the Enter Sandman solo but otherwise it's great. Front-heavy, but the surrounds get a little love now and then and it always feels appropriate and natural. Eagles - Hotel California (DVD-Audio) - Really nice. Heavy use of the surrounds throughout, which is interesting. With New Kid In Town, for example, the acoustic rhythm guitars are behind you to either side. It seemed odd at first but it actually works really well. With Hotel California, which often has 5 guitar parts going, each speaker gets its own guitar. And I've never been a big fan of Victim Of Love but the 5.1 mix here is really rockin. Eagles - Hell Freezes Over (DVD with DTS) - Mixed to sound like you're front row center. Easily the best live recordings I've ever heard (which isn't saying too much since I'm not into live stuff much). And other than that, not much :/ I enjoy the Dolby Digital mix of Billy Jean on some Michael Jackson DVD I have. I'm looking to pick up the DVD-As of Chicago II and Beck's Sea Change, since I love a few songs off those. Other than that, I'm wide open to suggestions. DVD-As, DTS CDs, live performances on DVD, whatever. If you've got 'em I'd love to hear about 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheus Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 What player are you using? Just curious as there are some excellent SACD's in 5.1. Anyways, the Flaming Lips Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots DVD-A is amazing with it's swirliness and is in my opinion one of teh few 5.1 mixes that is completely appropriate for the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrik Draven Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I really wish that they'd put out some Floyd in DVD-A, instead of the SACD. I can't play SACD but, if I could, I think that Dark Side of the Moon would be absolutely AMAZING in 5.1!!! :thud Pink Floyd's music, (if you're a fan), is just MADE for 5.1, ya know? :rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheus Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I've got a 4 channel DTS cd of DSOTM that someone made from the Quad version, damn it is good (maybe even better mix wise than the SACD release). More Floyd on either format would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covak Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 What player are you using? Just curious as there are some excellent SACD's in 5.1. Anyways, the Flaming Lips Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots DVD-A is amazing with it's swirliness and is in my opinion one of teh few 5.1 mixes that is completely appropriate for the music. Ou, I didn't know there were 5.1 SACDs. Actually, I know pretty much nothing about SACDs I'll have to read up on 'em. My player is just my computer though, with DVD drive and Audigy 2 ZS. I'm not a big DSOTM fan, but I can imagine it being nice in surround... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 I believe The Who's TOMMY is on DVD-A. I prefer SACD myself. I have Tommy, DSOTM, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, A Charlie Brown Christmas for the holidays, Gaucho, Take Five...also, check out the DVD Queen's Greatest Hits, vol. 1 for a great DTS mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 No DVD-A player should be without Bjork's Vespertine on DVD-A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 My player is just my computer though, with DVD drive Do you actually get to hear the DVD-Audio layer with that setup, aren't you just getting the "backwards compatible" surround sound out of it? I'm not the most educated guy about DVD-Audio (it's SACD I've got) so I could be wrong, but I thought you needed a DVD-Audio player to get the full high res surround effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 The Audigy 2 ZS card, to the best of my knowledge, Brian, decodes DVD-Audio quite nicely. I've got the card for goodness sake, I should know for sure, but I'd honestly need to look at the manual. Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covak Posted February 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 The Audigy 2 ZS does DVD-A for real. Well, I guess it can't do the 192 KHz stereo mixes for real, being "limited" to 96 KHz, but who wants the stereo mixes anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrik Draven Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 but I thought you needed a DVD-Audio player to get the full high res surround effect. From what little I know, that's correct. I play mine in my Xbox and, it's not true DVD-Audio. It's surround but, I was told it's "Red Book" surround and not the full bitstream of DVD-A. All I have is Metallica's black album and, even though it's not the full effect, it's a huge step above cd. It's too damn bad we have yet another format war with DVD-Audio and SACD. Well, I don't know if it's big enough to call a war, yet but...how 'bout a format skirmish? Is there any winner in this skirmish? Is either format pulling out in front? There are a few players out there that do both formats. I was thinking about going that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 I hate that DVD-A and SACD are not taken more seriously by the studios. Both formats can sounding fucking brilliant, but no marketing and no simultaneous releases have caused both formats to basically be DOA. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covak Posted February 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 I hate that DVD-A and SACD are not taken more seriously by the studios. Both formats can sounding fucking brilliant' date=' but no marketing and no simultaneous releases have caused both formats to basically be DOA. -Dean-[/quote'] I get the impression that a lot of people just don't care They're like "DVD-Audio? What's that? How can anything sound better than CDs?" And even if you sit them down and give them a demo and they seem impressed they just go back to their iPods afterwards and think everything is peachy. I just picked up Beck's Sea Change and Chicago II like I was hoping to, and also grabbed Deep Purple's Machine Head. The DVD-Audio versions of the Chicago and Deep Purple albums were both produced by the same dude, and from the few tracks I've heard on each I'd say they both rock hard :rock I'm going to be playing 25 or 6 to 4 excessively for a long while Sea Change is sounding as nice as I'd expected. The surround use sounds really natural for the music. I've never listened to the Flaming Lips before but I managed to give that Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots a listen (just the CD) and kinda like it. Might pick that up next. Does sound like it could make for a good 5.1 mix. That Queen's Greatest Hits DVD also looks tasty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orpheus Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 I've never listened to the Flaming Lips before but I managed to give that Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots a listen (just the CD) and kinda like it. Might pick that up next. Does sound like it could make for a good 5.1 mix. The DVD-A version of Yoshimi also includes a normal cd version of it as well. IIRC, there is a DTS Police Greatest Hits cd and a few Sting CD's that are very well done. Almost all the DTS stuff I have is homebrew mixes that I've acquired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan_E Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 I've had Machine Head for awhile and LOVE it! :rock It IS a shame that this format, no matter DVD A or SACD, doesn't have more titles. Can you imagine Zepplin or The Beatles or even The Beastie Boys in the format...and I DARE anyone who thinks different to listen to Hotel California and say CD is even close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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