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There have been some tid bits popping up on a few scifi message boards that there was a announcement that the new Dr. Who will be aired on Scifi channel , with a second run on USA network. Scifi would also get the rights to re-run past Dr. Who series. As soon as i find any more info Ill post it

 

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Would this really be a suprise to anyone? Doctor Who doesn't fit BBC America's image much at all, so farming it off to SciFi as the next Battlestar Galactica (ie high budget, high quality vs their usual dreck) isn't a bad idea by the Beeb.

 

Can't imagine Sci-Fi doing much with classic Who though. Wouldn't be the same with ads all the way through it.

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Well, the first episode - entitled Rose - has apparently leaked onto the internet and is probably circulating various newsgroups right now. Such things are alien to me so I couldn't tell you where to look specifically, but this is quite a blow for the BBC as we're still three weeks away from the UK airdate.

 

Reviews so far have been looking good from the press who have viewed a few episodes officially (music magazine 'Q' gave it an especially good write up this month). Sci-Fi channel have apparently however turned down the US rights.

 

Fans who have downloaded it (it was leaked from a Canadian source apparently) seem to be treating the episode favourably, some especially so.

 

Daniel

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Well' date=' the first episode - entitled Rose - has apparently leaked onto the internet and is probably circulating various newsgroups right now. Such things are alien to me so I couldn't tell you where to look specifically, but this is quite a blow for the BBC as we're still three weeks away from the UK airdate.

 

Reviews so far have been looking good from the press who have viewed a few episodes officially (music magazine 'Q' gave it an especially good write up this month). Sci-Fi channel have apparently however turned down the US rights.

 

Fans who have downloaded it (it was leaked from a Canadian source apparently) seem to be treating the episode favourably, some especially so.

 

Daniel[/quote']

 

Mmmm.....hmmmm.... /fires up Newsleecher

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I'm going to wait, and try to avoid spoilers (if ANY of you download it, do spoiler tag any potential huge plot points). The BBC is planning a huge build up of Who goodness in the run up to the air date at the end of this month so I am rather looking forward to that.

 

Someone did note one line of dialogue in episode 1 that I found funny. Rose apparently asks if the Dr is an alien, how come his has a northern accent to which he replies something akin to "most planets have a North".

 

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Well..........you can say more than THAT' date=' Joel. :)

 

Theme music and opening titles, much in common with the Tom Baker era as had been rumoured? Tell me that much for goodness sake.

 

Daniel[/quote']

 

:lmfao

 

The theme music remains the same. There is a new logo that's pretty cool, it's the same one they're using for "Doctor Who Confidential", only with a red background:

 

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I hadn't heard about the commonalities to the Tom Baker era, but yeah, it definitely has that kind of feel. The Doctor is very amusing.

 

The bigger budget is definitely noticeable, but it still retains a great deal of the original series' low-budget campiness. The special effects are good...but not TOO good. :)

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There are reports claiming the leaked version is an old edit from a couple of months ago, and one that has been re-edited in places since then ready for its official transmission on Easter weekend here. Apparently the opening and end titles music is not the final version either, and that for the leaked version it does just reprise the latter Tom Baker era rendition.

 

BBC are allegedly airing a new trailer for it tonight over here at 8pm.

 

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There are reports claiming the leaked version is an old edit from a couple of months ago' date=' and one that has been re-edited in places since then ready for its official transmission on Easter weekend here. Apparently the opening and end titles music is not the final version either, and that for the leaked version it does just reprise the latter Tom Baker era rendition.

 

BBC are allegedly airing a new trailer for it tonight over here at 8pm.

 

Daniel[/quote']

 

Oh, I see what you were asking about the "Tom Baker era".... Now that you mention it, yeah I guess it is the old music. Interesting.

 

I'll be very interested to see how much the broadcast version differs from this one...

 

Oh yeah...I forgot to comment on The Doctor's new companion:

 

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Man oh man, do I approve! :tu :rock

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Well in reference to the titles, I actually meant graphically more than anything as it's been known for a while that composer Murray Gold already said he would be doing a new arrangement of the theme for the series.

 

Not long to wait now though. If a trailer does surface this evening, it'll be interesting to see if it uses a new arrangement. *edit* the new theme was played on BBC Radio 5 Live this morning. Just working through an archived version of the show online to find it.

 

I never much liked Billie Piper.... we had to endure her pop career a good while before she gave up and got into acting.

 

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Well in reference to the titles' date=' I actually meant graphically more than anything as it's been known for a while that composer Murray Gold already said he would be doing a new arrangement of the theme for the series.

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Gotcha. The titles do bring back the "tunnel" effect from the Tom Baker, era...

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I havent watched any Dr. Who but im always up for somethig new

 

You should watch the classics then ;).

 

Huge Who fan, and I'm a big fan of Christopher Eccleston's after his turn as DCI Bilborough in the superlative 'Cracker' series. :tu

 

But classic Doctor Who is just... so... cheezy. I love it for the sheer cheeziness of it all! The effects, everything. It's fun stuff.

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As another person who hasn't really watched any Dr. Who, is there any general consensus on the proper way to start out on it? From what I can gather, there's different "eras" which basically have the same characters portrayed by different actors, or something like that. Honestly, I have no idea, but it all seems rather complex and a bit daunting to a newcomer.

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Is there any general consensus on the proper way to start out on it?

 

This is rather difficult to answer? I'd argue no, but as with most things it is often wise to start at the very beginning since the creators are discovering things about the characters almost as much as the viewer is. I can?t even dare to call myself a connoisseur of the series, there are many episodes I've not seen, and I'm not as clued in on the DVDs as I would like to be. You could really approach any of the series from its beginning, i.e. when a new actor took the role of the Doctor and go from there.

I think the rather muddled releases of the mixture of aired episodes, lost episodes?etc on DVD gives weight to this theory that you could approach the series in such a way, and frankly your forced to since the DVDs are not released chronologically.

 

The Paul McGann TV movie from the 90s is probably best avoided. It has its moments but was almost instantly forgettable for the most part. You could of course take a look at the two films Peter Cushing did as the doctor- Dr. Who and the Daleks, and DaLeks Invasion Earth (2150AD) which have their moments.

 

One of the endearing things, to me, about the program was that for many people in the UK, so long as you were not born at the very tail end of the 80s or thereafter, most generations alive today all have a different doctor and assistant who they grew up with. For me, it was the last, Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred

 

The production values are dated. If you can?t look past things like that, it?s hard to get far in watching the old episodes? that said, there really were some wonderfully written episodes, and some terrific characters. I?ll do some research on the DVDs and see if there?s anything specific you could begin with, of course I am not sure what DVDs are available in the US versus what DVDs are available here in the UK.

 

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The Paul McGann TV movie from the 90s is probably best avoided.

 

I swear I'm the only person who enjoys that movie ;). I wasn't even a big Doctor Who fan back then and there are certain aspects that don't really need to be there, but it's a guilty pleasure and the theme song arrangement is kickass.

 

As another person who hasn't really watched any Dr. Who, is there any general consensus on the proper way to start out on it? From what I can gather, there's different "eras" which basically have the same characters portrayed by different actors, or something like that.

 

Well, one thing you gotta realize is that most every story (typically lasting 4 episodes, though this does vary a bit) is self-contained and there's very little overall story arc to follow.

 

Tom Baker is widely considered the best doctor (although I admit a fondness for Sylvestor McCoy and the audio dramas done by Paul McGann) in the series, and his 6-parter The Talons of Weng-Chiang is generally considered a good classic Who story.

 

Other good stories I've enjoyed include 'Tomb of the Cybermen' (pretty much the whole Borg concept done several decades before TNG) and 'The Ark in Space'. The Daleks are the series' most popular monsters and there are a couple of good Dalek stories on DVD as well. 'The Dalek Invasion of Earth' is a 6-parter featuring the first doctor and it's quite good, though it does run a bit long. 'Remembrance of the Daleks' is another good one, and one of my favorite Who stories.

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100% confirmed now that the theme music in the leaked version is not the final rendition. I've been lurking on the Outpost Gallifrey forum where of course some fans downloaded it, but also listened to the radio broadcast of the new theme this morning, which one dear fan made as an mp3 which I have right here and it's brilliant (there's a great march happening beneath the theme, strings are syntehsized sadly, but it's still very pleasing to the ear).

 

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Yeah, that's a tough one, Ryan. Like Daniel said, you can pretty much jump in anywhere. There's a lot of Who on DVD over here, including The Three Doctors, The Five Doctors, and The Two Doctors (the latter of which, I've never actually seen). Those would more or less introduce you to nearly all of the Doctors and a host of companions.

I came in right at the end of the Tom Baker/beginning of the Peter Davison era. I've seen nearly all of their episodes, but sadly very few Colin Baker or Sylvester McCoy. Favorite companions over the years would have to be Mary Tamm's Romana and Sarah Sutton's Nyssa.

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I swear I'm the only person who enjoys that movie. I wasn't even a big Doctor Who fan back then and there are certain aspects that don't really need to be there, but it's a guilty pleasure and the theme song arrangement is kickass.

 

It's not awful, I just wouldn't say to a newcomer to take a look at that anytime soon into their foray of Who. If you liked the theme rendition from that version though you're likely to love this new take. I've looped it about a dozen times. I may ask Romier to host it later if I catch him on AOL (you?ll have to endure BBC Radio imbecile Chris Moyles talking over it though).

 

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Thanks for all the recommendations and information. I think I'll try to see if anywhere has The Five Doctors, that seems like it would be a good starting point and an introduction to all the Doctors and such, so I can see what my preferences are and go from there. :)

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One other note on "The Five Doctors", Ryan, is that Tom Baker actually refused to do the episode, so they squeezed in footage from an unaired story from his era and subsequently he's not actually in it a whole lot. You'll get a good idea of the other Doctors from this one, but you may need to find a standalone Tom Baker episode to see what he's all about.

 

 

Thanks for the post, Daniel! I like it!

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