Romier S Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Heres the article on gameiondustrybiz.com: PS3 backwards compatibility confirmed. Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will feature backwards compatibility with the PS2 and PSone, ensuring continued support for older software formats in the new hardware. Speaking to Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, Kutaragi-san attributed some of the success of the PS2 to the console's ability to play PSone games as well as PS2 native titles, stating that this was "a matter of security... [PS2] offers a sense of insurance because it is compatible with PSone and DVD-Movies." This trend - started by Sony with the PS2, as backwards compatibility in home consoles was certainly not the norm before then - is set to continue with the PS3, which will offer emulation for the PS2 and hence for the PSone. "PSone runs on the PlayStation 2 through emulation rather than actual hardware. PlayStation 3 will offer the same compatibility for PS2 software and the format will continue forever," he explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 i only hope that the PS3 looks better then the PS2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted September 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 i only hope that the PS3 looks better then the PS2. Hardware design wise or graphically? I would say graphically is a given. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 Originally posted by FutureVoid@Sep 2 2003, 04:48 PM i only hope that the PS3 looks better then the PS2. Hardware design wise or graphically? I would say graphically is a given. 8) who the hell are you talking too fool? Hardware design wise of coarse. I've never been a big fan of the way the PS2 looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted September 2, 2003 Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 I've never been a big fan of the way the PS2 looks. I'll second this one, it looks like a combination between a lump of coal, a ventilation fan, and a sport drink. Just trust me on this one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted September 2, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2003 the hell are you talking too fool? Fool? Man I see a trip to Legend in your future. I did however forget about your affinity for hardware, whore that you are . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foogledricks Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Who cares about backwards compatibility? Does anyone still play PsONE games on their PS2? I could really care less if the XBOX 2 has this feature. I'll be playing Halo 3, not Halo 2 in 2005 damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camp Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I hope it loads games slower than the PS2. Hell, how's a guy supposed to both make and eat a sandwitch while Downhill Domination loads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsappel Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by kfredericks@Sep 2 2003, 09:19 PM Who cares about backwards compatibility? Does anyone still play PsONE games on their PS2? I could really care less if the XBOX 2 has this feature. I'll be playing Halo 3, not Halo 2 in 2005 damn it. I still play older games. Why have yet another component taking up space just to play those earlier games? Are you saying you won't ever play original Xbox titles? I think you're expecting a lot from the next generation. It's not like Xbox2 is going to make Xbox graphics look like an Atari 2600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted September 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 Does anyone still play PsONE games on their PS2? Sure do. Almost as much as I play PS2 games. Hell Castlevania Symphony of the Night is my favorite game of all time. EDIT: Also Keith, please keep the conversation in target here. If you don't feel backwards compatibility is an important feature thats fine and feel free to argue its merit in an intelligent fashion. However keep in mind that other folks here can and will find it to be a very necessary inclusion in future consoles. Opinion. Its the spice of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I care too, I'd rather not collect consoles. I hope they are all backward compatible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I still play through Symphony once a year. I still enjoy playing WipEout XL. I think the Saturn would have faired better if Sega would have kept their original plan of backwards support for the Genesis family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 I'm all for backwards compatibility. As everyone else said, why have another component on the rack when one can do the job of three. I still play PSone games on my PS2. As a matter of fact, my PSone memory card never leaves the 2nd controller slot. I don't know about others here, but even when Halo 2 comes out, I will stil be going back to Halo to play levels like the Silent Cartographer and the swamp level where we get introduced to the Flood. Levels like that don't come around very often. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Hamand Posted September 3, 2003 Report Share Posted September 3, 2003 This is great news. Backwards compatability is a must for me. I had to retire my VCR to make room for the Xbox in my tv cabinet. (damn KOTOR) I have no room for a bunch of old consoles. I think that I have lately used the PS2 more for PSone games. I can't remember the last PS2 game I played but I know I recently played Mega Man Legends, Vagrant Story and Castlevania SOTN. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam P Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Originally posted by gigapower@Sep 2 2003, 04:58 PM i only hope that the PS3 looks better then the PS2. What?! I absolutely adore the PS2's looks. What is the alternative? Consider the Gamecube - the artistic equivalent of a Fisher Price "My first console!" Full of preschool colours (on the machine and the controllers) and cute dimensions. The Xbox - The big green logo on top is plain tacky (both in size and colour), and not only was the original controller ergonomically abysmal, the big plastic bubble with the cardbox logo insert made me want to puke. It also looked like a rip-off on the DC pad. The Controller S helped matters considerably, though. The PS2 is the automotive equivalent of an Audi. Innovative (choice of two different placement positions), purposeful (no tacky announcements of its brand or purpose), and carries with it an overall elegance that is lacking from the 'Box or the 'Cube. The green and purple lighting scheme is also a terrific touch. I couldn't ask for a better looking console. But then again, just to state the trite, looks (especially in inanimate objects) is entirely subjective. So you're allowed to call me crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Monkey Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Man, you're crazy! I think the Xbox looks like a tenth grade study hall doodle ("Now give it ribs 'n' shit ... sweet"), but the PS2 looks, dunno ... dated? amateurish? I can't put my finger on it. If sony really wanted to be innovative, purposeful, and elegant, they'd make the PS3 component-width, stackable, matte black and give it a removable flip-open panel to conceal the controller ports. There would be a single RED power LED, just like the rest of my components. Then again, maybe that's the plan. And OT, but I love the GC's design! I'll take those "cute" dimensions over the Soviet dimensions of my Xbox any day. I think the silver (platinum?) GC has a tasteful presence lacking in the PS2 and Xbox. -j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsrunner Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Who cares about backwards compatibility? Does anyone still play PsONE games on their PS2? I could really care less if the XBOX 2 has this feature. I'll be playing Halo 3, not Halo 2 in 2005 damn it. I sure care. I still play Chrono Cross, Silent Hill, Resident Evil and one of the Final Fantasy (I-IX) once a year. I think backward compatibility should be a given from now on. Seriously, who wants to have to worry about having a PS1, PS2, PS3, XBox, XBox2, Gamecube, Gamecube II on their shelves? Just one of each please. Of course, as much as I love Nintendo, I doubt they'll do this. Hopefully Microsoft will follow the PS3s lead though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Consider the Gamecube - the artistic equivalent of a Fisher Price "My first console!" Uh, why, because it's purple? I'm sorry, but if console design has ever swayed anybody to play a system then I really have to wonder if they're buying a game machine or a novelty paperweight. I got a wicked indigo GC and I would have gotten a spice one if Nintendo had had the cajones to release it Stateside. Do I really need to see black boxes year after year? I'm trying to game not build a jet. And the Cube is a perfect design. I'm going to pack it up this very evening, put it into my knapsack and tote it six blocks to a friends place for an evening of Beach Spikers and Smash Bros. And that will all fit in one knapsack with four controllers, an AC adapter, and TV-outs. Sorry, I'm sick of people going off on how immature or whatever something looks just because it's got slick design and isn't black. And if you want to see great PS design, look at the PSOne, that thing is a work of art. I wish the PS2 would get a slick redesign like that, I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy liquid Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 And the Cube is a perfect design. I'm going to pack it up this very evening, put it into my knapsack and tote it six blocks to a friends place for an evening of Beach Spikers and Smash Bros. And that will all fit in one knapsack with four controllers, an AC adapter, and TV-outs. Amen. I've been lugging my xbox to my friends house for a while. But lately it's been the Cube. Talk about a huge difference! And design-wise, count me in the Cube's corner also. While I love my xbox, it's not the prettiest console. PS2 is okay, but I can see the argument of how it looks like a fan. I'm also glad about the backward compatibility of the PS3. It's good for saving space, and besides, I'm running out of room for inputs on my component switcher! This makes it much more convenient if someone wants to break out a PS1 game. I hope xbox can do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam P Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Originally posted by Pharmboy@Sep 5 2003, 01:57 PM Consider the Gamecube - the artistic equivalent of a Fisher Price "My first console!" Uh, why, because it's purple? I'm sorry, but if console design has ever swayed anybody to play a system then I really have to wonder if they're buying a game machine or a novelty paperweight. I got a wicked indigo GC and I would have gotten a spice one if Nintendo had had the cajones to release it Stateside. Do I really need to see black boxes year after year? I'm trying to game not build a jet. And the Cube is a perfect design. I'm going to pack it up this very evening, put it into my knapsack and tote it six blocks to a friends place for an evening of Beach Spikers and Smash Bros. And that will all fit in one knapsack with four controllers, an AC adapter, and TV-outs. Sorry, I'm sick of people going off on how immature or whatever something looks just because it's got slick design and isn't black. And if you want to see great PS design, look at the PSOne, that thing is a work of art. I wish the PS2 would get a slick redesign like that, I really do. The topic I was addressing had to do with the visual prowess of each console - not whether the design affected sales, not how heavy each is, nor whether the controllers and A/C adapters fit your knapsack. Those are irrelevant when we're speakings strictly of how each console looks to one's eyes. Gigapower called PS2 ugly. So I chimed in on that. I also don't remember dismissing the GC itself in any way. Just that it looked childish. And that it should, for it tends (if only slightly) towards a slightly younger audience. Don't see why you got so defensive. I think you were praising GC's hardware engineering. And it is well deserved. I don't like the fact the 'Box weighs a ton, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted September 6, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 but if console design has ever swayed anybody to play a system then I really have to wonder if they're buying a game machine or a novelty paperweight Ah but then Mark you may have misread what Sam was stating about an obvious problems that is inherent with the Gamecube design *to the general masses or the casual gaming audience*. The choice to go purple in my opinion did somewhat affect gamers opinion of the GC. Just as the anchor of a controller and the huge size of the Xbox made it the laughing stock of console design for a good while after it was first shown. To be fair both Microsoft and Nintendo alleviated their problems (with a black GC and the Controller S). I agree though, the Gamecube is a great piece of hardware (far more stable and better build quality than the both the Xbox and the PS2 IMHO) but its compact design (ie what some would call lunchbox appearance) no doubt killed some its supposed "cool" factor to the general audience (a stupid thing to not buy a console for but people will be people my friend). I think Sam was just commenting on that above all else and not attacking the GC per se.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam P Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Exactly. Thanks, Futurevoid. It wasn't meant to be a bash on the 'cube at all. I rather like the 'cube. You can't argue with quality. I just prefer the way the PS2 looks, over both the 'Cube and the 'Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Ah, that's cool, my bad. Been a long week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camp Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I think the Cube is the best looking from a design perspective. It's a very minimalist design that mirrors a lot of elements in the game industry: the cube shape reminds us that games are comprised of polygons. The minimalist look clearly announces this is a machine that plays games only -the Gamecube isn't trying to blend into your A/V rack because this console isn't trying to take on other functions. Finally, it's design does say something about younger gamers. It does reinforce the perception that Nintendo is a family product. Sony & Microsoft's designs just say, "I'm black to match your A/V components". Not much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnemaEms Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 The Gamecube design actually remided me of a sleeker Dreamcast. The Dreamcast was, IMHO, the best looking console to date. What makes the two similiar is that they both look like gaming machines. The Dreamcast was a very tiny machine, and Nintendo made the Cube even smaller. Personally, if I ever do get another Cube (Don't really need to since my g/f's son has one), I would get the Platinum color. That is, IMHO, the 2nd best looking console. -Dean- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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