Strahd Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=4&id=332037 There's no way this can be true. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Monkey Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 There's no way this can be true. :confused: How so? I've been looking around online for some court documents (like findings of fact) to no avail. Still, I'm sure there are lots of ways this news can be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 There's no way this can be true. It is. Microsoft made an out of court settlement with them some time back. Sony decided to fight it. Welcome to the world of patents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Does this mean my vintage PSOne with vibrating controller is now worth money as a collector's item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zot Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Sure it can be true. Not only that, but it probably is true if they were found guilty in a court of law. Patent infrengement lawsuits are pretty techinical and thorough. If someone is found guilty, they are usually infringeing on someone else's patent (knowingly or not doesn't matter.) They should just pony up the 90 mil and make a deal to keep selling dual-shock 2 controllers. That's the part that hurts them more than the back fees, the threat that their main controller can't be sold until this is resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Bling Bling Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 The 90 mil is pocket change, this is the good part: In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. Sony = pwnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I'm sure this ruling will be appealed and will go through legal hell before anything actually happens. This just goes to show that MS's lawyers > then Sony's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 More on the story from Gamestop: Sony, on the other hand, left the decision up to the courts, a move that appears to have cost the company a serious chunk of change. Last Thursday, United States District Judge Claudia Wilken ordered the electronics giant to pay Immersion $90.7 million in patent infringement damages. The fine stems from the $82 million awarded to Immersion by a jury's decision on September 21, 2004, plus prejudgement interest of $8.7 million tacked on last week, which Sony unsuccessfully objected to. Also: The Oakland, California, court also ordered an injunction stating that Sony is to immediately stop selling the PlayStation, PlayStation 2, both versions of the Dual Shock controllers, and 47 games found to use the vibration technology, including Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and Gran Turismo 3. The injunction only effects sales in the United States. Sony is appealing the decision and has been granted a stay of the injunction allowing it to continue to sell it's products as normal during that appeal time. If the appeal fails though and the injunction is put in place........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretvampire Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Sony is appealing the decision and has been granted a stay of the injunction allowing it to continue to sell it's products as normal during that appeal time. If the appeal fails though and the injunction is put in place........ SURELY it wouldn't come to that. I'm betting that Sony would arrange some kind of a royalty arrangement with the patent owners rather than let their worldwide empire grind to a halt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlot Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 I'm not up to date on all this... who is Immersion? How come Nintendo didn't get sued with the N64... they were the first with da rumble. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooter Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 For shame, Romier. Do you not read your own Forum before posting? Look down about 3 threads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 There's a thread for this already: http://www.lcvg.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6218 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 HA! Momentary laps of awareness. I'll go ahead and merge both threads then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark E Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 HA! Momentary laps of awareness To say nothing of the spelling fart . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFo Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 HA! Momentary laps of awareness. I'll go ahead and merge both threads then. I'm glad to see that I'm starting to rub off on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyN Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Forbes.com had a article about this topic. Microsoft was very smart by settiling. They saved themselves a lot of cash and positioned themselves well Should Sony choose to settle, there may be more than one winner in the case--the other being Microsoft. In 2003, Immersion settled a similar patent-infringement case with Microsoft over its Xbox gaming system. Under terms of that settlement, Microsoft paid Immersion $20 million in cash and took a 9% equity stake, worth $6 million, in the company. It also has an option to convert a $9 million debenture into more Immersion stock. Moreover, Immersion Chief Executive Victor Viegas says the settlement also includes a sub-license that allows Microsoft to cut license agreements on Immersion's technology with other companies--including Sony. Under such a deal Microsoft would share license revenue. But should Immersion settle with Sony, the latter would be obligated to pay Microsoft a minimum of $15 million. That's pocket change to a company that generates billions in cash every year, but could be viewed as a symbolic victory for Microsoft over Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam P Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 I'm glad to see that I'm starting to rub off on you. Hey, this is a PG-rated thread.... take it easy, fellas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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