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I'm having an issue with my Xbox - I can't get widescreen supported games to display in widescreen.

 

I have the HD adaptor, I have component cables hooked upto my TV, I have all of the display modes enabled in the dashboard, I have widescreen set as my display type.

 

When I go to play a widescreen supported game (say Bloodrayne 2 or GTA:SA), I get 480p & 4:3 piped to my TV. The Sony TV I have tells me exactly what feed it's getting. I'll get 1080i out okay for MX Unleashed 2. I'll get 720p okay in the Tony Hawk games. I just don't seem to be getting widescreen when the game is 480p + 16:9.

 

Any ideas? This /was/ working, I"m pretty sure. I'll test out another xbox & the same games tonight, see if it's something in the setup of this machine.

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As an added wrinkle, this is a modded Xbox. UnleashX & XBMC display in 16:9 perfectly fine.

 

Try it on your non-modded Xbox and see if the same thing happens. If you get 16:9 you might try renaming your UnleashX config file and letting it remake it as well as replacing the MS Dashboard file. If you need a MS Dash file let me know.

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Did some digging, and indeed, 480p 16:9 technically doesn't exist - I need to manually force my TV to support widescreen in that mode somehow. Dunno why it works for DVDs... Might have to make it think it's a DVD input not "game" :) Time to check the manual tonight. Thanks for the help, guys.

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Regardless of what your TV is reporting to be receiving, or what display mode it's giving you, what is the picture that you're seeing? Is it a 16:9 picture that your TV is just showing as 4:3 (So things look stretched up or down) or is it a 4:3 formatted image?

 

If it's a 16:9 image being detected at 4:3 by your TV, then I would guess that the mod software you're using might be improperly flagging the image as 4:3 to the television.

 

the type of connection that you use makes no difference in what format of image the XBox will output. You could be using RF and have it set to WS and the XBox will output a 16:9 image for supported games.

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Just tried playing a DVD there (Spiderman 2) - 480i 16:9.

 

I read the AVSForum thread dedicated to this line of TVs, noone reported this problem - guess I'll crosspost there & see what they say.

 

Could it be a problem with the HD Advanced pack I'm using? It's the official Microsoft one, the 'second' release I believe.

 

the type of connection that you use makes no difference in what format of image the XBox will output. You could be using RF and have it set to WS and the XBox will output a 16:9 image for supported games.

 

So if I hooked up my composite cables, I should get a 480i 16:9 image out of it?

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the type of connection that you use makes no difference in what format of image the XBox will output. You could be using RF and have it set to WS and the XBox will output a 16:9 image for supported games.

 

Actually, thinking about this some more, that makes no sense. I have two TVs I use - a 16:9 HDTV & a regular 4:3 CRT. The Xbox is set to widescreen, with 480p, 720p, 1080i enabled. When I take the Xbox to the second TV & plug it in using composite cables, by that reckoning I should get a squished widescreen picture, correct?

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Does anyone know: does the Xbox (or any other device, for that matter) actually tell TVs what aspect ratio to use?
I don't know if the Xbox puts it out (I would hope it would), but the EIA-608 standard, which is also used for closed captioning, provides for it. There's a "program aspect ratio" packet encoded similar to the way program rating information (like R, TV-MA, etc.) is encoded, and the display device can ignore it or use it.
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Does anyone know: does the Xbox (or any other device, for that matter) actually tell TVs what aspect ratio to use?

Yes,

at least on my mits it does. For example I had the dash bord on 480 i and when I poped in San Anderes it indacted it had switched to 480 p when the game started to load

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When I take the Xbox to the second TV & plug it in using composite cables, by that reckoning I should get a squished widescreen picture, correct?

 

Yes, you would, just like if you plug your DVD player into a 4:3 TV and set the player to WS, you get a squished looking image. When I moved my XBox back and forth from my 16:9 TV and my 4:3 TV I'd have to change the settings or I'd get a squished 16:9 image.

 

There is no way for the XBox to know what type of TV your XBox is connected to, except by the options in the menu, which is why they're there. Technically there is no difference between a 4:3 image, and a 16:9 image outputted from any video playing device except for how it's supposed to be porperly displayed.

 

The cables, TV, or HD box have absolutely nothing to do with how the XBox formats the image. If you say that both XBoxes are outputting a proper 4:3 image onto your TV when you have it set for widescreen, then my only conclusion can be that you're mistaken.

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