Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I posted a news article concerning this months NPD on the main site so you can give it a read here: http://www.lcvg.com/news.php I've also copied it here for you: December 8, 2005 - The official NPD numbers are already making thier way around the internet, and they will no doubt be the subject of much debate amongst 360 owners. The console sold through 332,000 units, falling below analyst expectations of 400,000 units being moved at launch. The shortages that some considered to be engineered by Microsoft are no doubt a large contributing factor in the lower than expected sell through of the console. I think it is safe to say the shortages are in fact genuine, and any speculation about Microsoft building hype for the 360 were rumors at best. The shining light here is the absolutely impressive software tie-in ratio of the 360's launch lineup. Some 1.3 million software units were moved at the system launch totalling 75 million dollars worth of revenue. The 360 has a tie-in ratio of near 4:1 (4 games for every one console sold). November also saw $818 million in games sold, versus $849 million in software sales in November 2004. Analyst projections that software sales would be disastrous were off the mark this month, though a 3.6 percent drop in sales isn't great news either. **UPDATE: Released by the NPD Group: It has come to our attention that the November 2005 Video Games data released today contained overstated information. Please do not use the information in your PowerView databases and/or Snapshot Reports released earlier today. NPD will remove the most recent data from the NPD Funworld website beginning 7:30pm EST. NPD Games will review the reasons behind the overstated numbers immediately and will have an update to you by tomorrow, Friday 12pm EST. We are not clear when the new data will be reissued. However, we are making every effort to ensure the issue is resolved before re-releasing the Video Games Data. We apologize for this inconvenience. We will update this article with proper sales numbers when they are released. Article is updated, and new numbers will be posted when they are released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooter Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Holy Crap, that's one CoD2 for every 1.27 X360's... Hmmm...that leaves about 425000 units between Kameo, PGR3, and PDZ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Alot more games than that Joel as noted. I'm really hoping Condemned did well. If the game does not outsell absolute garbage ports like Tony Hawk and Gun I'll be forced to give up any hope I have left for the gaming community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooter Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Alot more games than that Joel as noted. I'm really hoping Condemned did well. Oh yeah...forgot about that one. Still pretty good even if that's divided by 4. I'll be Kameo has numbers nearly as high as CoD2 by virtue of it's presence in the kiosks, which I'm sure helped Call a lot. I know during my searches, that a lot of folks were stopped dead in their tracks walking by that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Again, we're talking more games than four. Take a look at my first post. We don't have numbers for: Condemned, King Kong, Ridge Racer 6, Project Gotham Racing 3, Kameo, and Perfect Dark Zero. EDIT: By the way, Nintendo took the proverbial pie this November. The percentages for hardware sales for the month: Nintendo: 1,552,341 - 52.06% Sony: 905,868 - 30.38% Microsoft: 523,441 - 17.55% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whooter Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Sorry, couldn't remember all the launch games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Wow the GBA is on fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Sorry, couldn't remember all the launch games. Oh it's all good Joel. It simply means some of those remaining 6 either sold through the roof leaving the others to languish. Or there was an equal spread. I agree that Kameo will more than likely have sold well thanks to the kiosk exposure. I do believe PGR3 could have easily broken 100k. Same for Perfect Dark. Which means that Kong, Condemned, and Ridge Racer may not have sizzled the retail channel. Though there is always the possibility that Kameo really didn't strike a chord (same for PGR3 for that matter), and one of those other three were able to take the spotlight. I'm banking on Perfect Dark having sold well on name alone, but again who's certain about anything anymore in this business? (I'd personally be happy to see Condemned break 100k though I doubt that's feasible. I'd be satisfied with 60-75k in sales for it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 The shortages that some considered to be engineered by Microsoft are no doubt a large contributing factor in the lower than expected sell through of the console. I think the lack of followup shipments (or the apparent sparseness of them) indicates that this was not engineered by MS but a genuine shortage of 360s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 That was my somewhat sarcastic point Ed. EDIT: I've revised the news article to be a bit clearer on that point Ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 That was my somewhat sarcastic point Ed. Oh, I thought we were supposed to ignore you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Forget all those numbers for now... This is a message put out by NPD It has come to our attention that the November 2005 Video Games data released today contained overstated information. Please do not use the information in your PowerView databases and/or Snapshot Reports released earlier today. NPD will remove the most recent data from the NPD Funworld website beginning 7:30pm EST. NPD Games will review the reasons behind the overstated numbers immediately and will have an update to you by tomorrow, Friday 12pm EST. We are not clear when the new data will be reissued. However, we are making every effort to ensure the issue is resolved before re-releasing the Video Games Data. We apologize for this inconvenience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Oh, I thought we were supposed to ignore you... You've been talking to Glen haven't you? Forget all those numbers for now... Wonderful. I've updated the article with that update James, thanks. I'll revise the news posting when the real numbers are released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daisy Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 You've been talking to Glen haven't you? Nah, the word is just on the street. Glen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendak Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 These NPD numbers don't contain any Wal-Mart numbers right? At least that's what I heard. Wonder what was "overstated." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 The Walmart figures are estimated and included in the numbers NPD releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'm really hoping Condemned did well. If the game does not outsell absolute garbage ports like Tony Hawk and Gun I'll be forced to give up any hope I have left for the gaming community In the UK, although I've not seen sales figures as yet, Condemned outsold every EA title and basic multi-platform port available on the 360 making it the fourth most popular title within the console's first week of being on sale (it is a week old today). Perfect Dark is at #1, PGR3 at #2, Call of Duty 2 at #3, Condemned at #4 and Need for Speed at #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Im still amazed that Nintendo sold 900,000 GBAs in November! As compared to 380,000 DS systems and 360,000 PSPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFo Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Im still amazed that Nintendo sold 900,000 GBAs in November! As compared to 380,000 DS systems and 360,000 PSPs! They did? Where did you see these figures, Cameron? Did the NPD release the updated figures yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Jeff, I read it here: http://ds.ign.com/articles/674/674746p1.html but apparantly it's using the "incorrect" numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainl Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Unless those 'incorrect' numbers count GBA Micros as GBAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starhawk Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I think the GBA number was all inclusive of GBA SP and GBA Micro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romier S Posted December 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Actuals! Xbox 360 = 326,000 PS2 = 531,000 Xbox = 197,000 GCN = 272,000 GBA = 690,000 (approx) DS = 370,000 (approx) Xbox 360 software sales = 1.3 million units, Tie ratio of almost 4:1. Overall software sales are down 18% over November 2004. Console software sales are down 33%, even with the Xbox 360 sales contribution. Hardware sales are down 44% over last year. Ugh. November Top 25 Software Sales US Top 25 Videogame Titles Rank Title Publisher Rank Title Publisher 1 XBX STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts 2 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts 3 360 CALL OF DUTY 2 Activision 4 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts 5 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN VS RAW 2 THQ 6 360 MADDEN NFL 06 Electronic Arts 7 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES Take 2 Interactive 8 PS2 TONY HAWK AMERICAN WASTELAND Activision 9 GCN MARIO PARTY 7 Nintendo 10 NDS MARIO KART Nintendo 11 PS2 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF Vivendi 12 PS2 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision 13 360 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts 14 PS2 SOUL CALIBUR III Namco 15 PS2 DRAGON BALL Z: BUDOKAI TENK Atari 16 PS2 NBA LIVE 06 Electronic Arts 17 PS2 BLITZ: THE LEAGUE Midway 18 PS2 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED Electronic Arts 19 PS2 RATCHET: DEADLOCKED Sony 20 PSP STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LucasArts 21 360 PERFECT DARK ZERO LTD ED Microsoft 22 PS2 SOCOM 3: US NAVY SEALS Sony 23 PS2 GUN Activision 24 PS2 THE MATRIX: PATH OF NEO Atari 25 XBX CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE Activision Source: The NPD Group/NPD Funworld, POS Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales. -Call of Duty 2 = 360's big boy on campus. -Battlefront II was an ABSOLUTE monster in November as well. I'll post more numbers as I see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFo Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hardware sales are down 44% over last year. Ugh. Shouldn't we expect a downward trend at this point anyway? I mean, the Xbox is being slowly phased out in favor of the 360 and the other systems are nearing the end of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyjaw Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Note: Ranked in terms of $$$ sales. I wonder how the $10 premium on 360 games affects this list? I'd like to see a ranking in unit sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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