kelley Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Sony has started to announce their 2007 SXRD line up. The base SXRD models will be called the A2020, they will have black cabinets. They are $100 cheaper on the MSRP then the A2000 line. The 60" model is calling my name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberwoo Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Its going to be really hard for me to pass up on the 60". So whats new/better about the 2007 SXRD's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 This technically is not a new model from what I have heard. The A2020 is the A2000, but with a black bezel. Internally it is not expected to be any different. The new models will come at the end of the summer with the XBR range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Back to black, nice. I'm very interested in the 60" model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 It is nice in black I must agree. It’s a shame they’re not updating this model though internally. They could at least bring the US one up to the spec the A2000 boasts in Europe, but I suppose it would strip your XBR sets of any benefit (the XBR models don’t exist here so our A2000 was in fact a hybrid of performance and features of the us A2000 and XBR). I’m assuming they will delay things like 120hz for the autumn models. Incidentally the 70inch has been discontinued here now so there’s definitely movement in place to introduce new models. In the UK it seems like Sony is planning to make the laser based 60inch model the top tier option... God knows what it will be priced though. ?3000 list price would be acceptable (resulting in ?2400/2500 online perhaps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 On second thought I'll probably pass on the A2020. From a quick search on AVS it looks like there will be an A3000 series introduced at some point for Fall 2007 release. I'm not buying until the end of the year so the newer models should be out then along with the LED DLP sets from Samsung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Yup. The 3000s should add things like 120hz…etc, though I reckon they will remain lamp based. The 2007 XBR offering after the summer will probably be the laser based model at the premium price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberwoo Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I love that they made the set black. Since I was seriously considering the 60" SXRD to begin with the fact they are releasing a better looking set just makes the wait even harder. I just hate waiting because I know a new technology will ALWAYS be around the corner. I should just buy one of these sexy new black 60" SXRD's and be happy with it for 4-5years when I can then start thinking about another set. Sounds logical right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Not sure how reliable this poster is but here is some info on the Fall release schedule. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=813334 TYPE DESCR. MFG# OLD ITEM # NEW ITEM # ASSORTMENT* AVAILABILITY DEFINITION LCOS 50" SXRD KDS50A3000 54626 54607 AB AUG 1080 LCOS 55" SXRD KDS55A3000 54686 54617 AB AUG 1080 LCOS 60" SXRD XBR KDSR60XBR3 54636 TBD AB OCT 1080 LCOS 70" SXRD XBRKDSR70XBR2 KDSR70XBR3 TBD A OCT 1080 I hope the list is incomplete as I am looking at a 60"+ set and that would force me up to the more expensive XBR3 sets if I decide to go the a Sony. Several posts on AVS are confirming from various sources HDMI 1.3 and 120Hz for the XBR3 along with new slim cabinets similar to the latest XBR3 LCD sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 Nice. The chap who posted those specifics wrote fhe following: Good news: The SXRD XBR's have HDMI 1.3 and 120hz-very nice refresh rate! They have a whole new cabinet design and they are slim....12" to be exact. I was told that unless you were standing next to the set "you'd think it was a plasma". They apparently have a "glass-like" frame similar to the SONY XBR3 LCD's. He said the TV and the picture quality are really beautiful. He saw some PS3 on the set and some Blu-Ray and I can tell you he had a great deal of enthusiasm in his voice. He was extremely impressed with the picture quality. It hits the stores in October. Now the bad news, for me anyway..... It comes in only two sizes: 60" and 70". I know some have expressed a desire for larger sizes and some hoped for smaller options. Sixty inches is too big for me. I will sit 9.5 feet away and it will dwarf the long narrow room it would sit in. This all fits in with what I posted recently in my big thread about a "slim" 60inch model coming to Europe later this year, though this post does not go as far as to suggest it will be laser projection as I'd heard it might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Further news. So far, the indication is certainly that this years models will in fact remain lamp based. Paperwork actually shows the chassis depth to be around 14? according to one fellow, but that?s still excellent (it might well be closer to 12" on 50 and 55 inch sets). I noticed Sony has also gone with a slim design for their 3LCD RPTVs too. The A3000 and XBR3 will apparently share the same slim black chassis. Internally however, the A3000 will only have DRC 1.0 processing and three HDMI inputs. The XBR3 will boast DRC 2.5, four HDMI inputs and apparently better speaker designs. Both will have 120hz processing. HDMI appears to be 1.3 spec (not that it means anything really important in a TV). I noticed in the announcements of the 2007 LCD flat panels Sony were specifically mentioning 24p support, so although nothing has been said yet, it stands to reason direct 24p support will feature on the SXRD sets too (those aforementioned 3LCD RPTVs also support it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Looks like the 60" XBR3 will be a serious contender for me come December. With no 60" A3000 model I hope Sony can be more aggressive in pricing the XBR3 compared to previous years. Samsung has already stated that none of their 2007 DLP sets will support 24p. I haven't really read up on the real world advantages of native 24p support so I'm not sure how much of an advantage that gives Sony if their sets do support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce B Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Further news. So far, the indication is certainly that this years models will in fact remain lamp based. Paperwork actually shows the chassis depth to be around 14? according to one fellow, but that?s still excellent (it might well be closer to 12" on 50 and 55 inch sets). I noticed Sony has also gone with a slim design for their 3LCD RPTVs too. The A3000 and XBR3 will apparently share the same slim black chassis. Internally however, the A3000 will only have DRC 1.0 processing and three HDMI inputs. The XBR3 will boast DRC 2.5, four HDMI inputs and apparently better speaker designs. Both will have 120hz processing. HDMI appears to be 1.3 spec (not that it means anything really important in a TV). I noticed in the announcements of the 2007 LCD flat panels Sony were specifically mentioning 24p support, so although nothing has been said yet, it stands to reason direct 24p support will feature on the SXRD sets too (those aforementioned 3LCD RPTVs also support it). Its about time that they started adding more HDMI inputs. Having only two is archaic today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Looks like the 60" XBR3 will be a serious contender for me come December. With no 60" A3000 model I hope Sony can be more aggressive in pricing the XBR3 compared to previous years. I am hoping the UK equivalent of the 60inch XBR3 will be about ?2999 at most. It's certainly a set I would consider holding out for. Samsung has already stated that none of their 2007 DLP sets will support 24p. I haven't really read up on the real world advantages of native 24p support so I'm not sure how much of an advantage that gives Sony if their sets do support it. It's a terrific feature to have. If fed 24p from a Blu Ray player 3:2 pulldown/motion judder never even enters into things. You end up with an image completely true to 24fps film sources (potentially made smoother still if multiplied to 120hz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 These two PDF's got posted over on AVS and give some nice details on the new sets. Looks like there will be a 60 inch set for the A3000 series. Sony part 1 Sony part 2 A3000 - 50, 55, 60 inch models - 1080p 120Hz - Bravia Engine Ex DRC-MF v1.0 - 1080p24 input - 1080p over component - < 5ms - 3 x HDMI v1.3 - PC Input (D-sub15 and HDMI - DVI) XBR5 - 60 and 70 inch - 1080p 120Hz - Bravia Engine Pro DRC-MF v2.5 - 1080p24 input - 1080p over component - < 5ms - 4 x HDMI v1.3 - PC Input (D-sub15 and HDMI - DVI) - RS232C port Dimensions - (W x H x D) 50A3000 - 45.12 x 33.31 x 14.21 55A3000 - 49.49 x 36.02 x 15.39 60A3000 - 53.86 x 38.70 x 16.57 Z60XBR5 - 59.25 x 39.21 x 13.11 Z70XBR5 - 68.43 x 42.95 x 14.65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberwoo Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 These tv's cannot come out fast enough. I'm not sure if I want the A300 or the XBR5 though. Any word on pricing yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 No pricing yet. I'm sure the XBR5's will command a premium. It will be interesting to see the final case designs on each as the 60" XBR5 is 6 inches wider then the A3000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberwoo Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 It will be interesting to see the final case designs on each as the 60" XBR5 is 6 inches wider then the A3000. Is this not the final design of the XBR5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I believe it is but with the A3000 listed as 3 inches shorter on each side they may look very much like the Samsung sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry the Clown Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 So angry with Sony for ditching SXRD in Europe. I think they'd have filled a gap in the market nicely had they decided to bring the slimmer 2007 XBR models here this year. The spec is perfect. Curious why the response time has gone up though. It was 2ms last year and now it's shot up to 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Yeah I believe last year was 2ms. Maybe the change to 120 from 60 made them have to increase response time to get the true 120. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertA Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 8.3ms is the maximum for 120Hz, So 5ms should give enough headroom. So would these be the first that would have 120Hz refresh rate? I can't wait to see these sets in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelley Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 The current Samsung LED DLP's have 120Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertA Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 The current Samsung LED DLP's have 120Hz. Ah really? I tought it wasn't confirmed yet. There were speculations that they were quoting the wobulation rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJames Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Samsung owners on AVS confirmed they are 60Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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