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You are kidding right? The PS3 nearly matched the 360 sales for January and the PS3 had nothing for new releases. The 360 had a AAA title in Lost Planet. With the arrival of Motorstorm, VF5, NBA Street, Baseball, and yes, even God OF War 2, PS3's will outsell the 360 in March. Oh, a little Blu-Ray title called Casino Royale will be released in March as well. PS3 may be starting out slow, but in the end, I believe it will still win this generation. Just my prediciton. If it doens't happen in March, it will happen soon. It will not be long before people start buying PS3's. The games are finally coming.

 

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You are kidding right? The PS3 nearly matched the 360 sales for January and the PS3 had nothing for new releases. The 360 had a AAA title in Lost Planet. With the arrival of Motorstorm, VF5, NBA Street, Baseball, and yes, even God OF War 2, PS3's will outsell the 360 in March. Oh, a little Blu-Ray title called Casino Royale will be released in March as well. PS3 may be starting out slow, but in the end, I believe it will still win this generation. Just my prediciton. If it doens't happen in March, it will happen soon. It will not be long before people start buying PS3's. The games are finally coming.

 

-Dean-

 

Yes, but what if MS started the Halo 3 multiplayer beta next month? That guy's armor is pure green for a reason ;)

 

MS should lower the price of the 360, or release that new HDMI/120 GB version for the $399 pricetag. They are losing sales due to being greedy dicks, the Wii is eating their lunch and they don't even care...

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I'm sure most of the Halo fanfare has already jumped aboard the 360 wagon.

 

Suprisingly not true according to MS. There's a relatively large player base for Halo 2 on the original Xbox, that's why they're doing things like the new Halo 2 maps exclusively on the 360 & the beta, to try & tempt them over.

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Trying to argue over whether Sony or MS will surpass each other is rather futile. It's akin to arguing over which out of two slow ass grandmas are going to make to the finish line first. The reality is that sales of the Xbox 360 and PS3 in January are par course and not terribly suprising. In fact, if you track 360 sales over the past year they are right on the mark and can only be described with one word: FLAT.

 

Outside of the lucrative holiday period, Xbox 360 sales have remained in the sub-300k range the entire year with very little movement. I predict the Playstation 3 will track in a very similiar way regardless of what quality releases people perceive. (as was the case with the 360 for the better part of a year)

 

It is still my belief that $400+ is not the type of pricing that will move systems in a significant way on a regular and consistent basis. Both of these systems needs a price drop and they need it very soon. Microsoft is in the best position to do that with the core system. Until they (and Sony) do, flat is where sales will remain for the months to come (with only heavy hitters titles registering in a significant way).

 

People continue to call the Wii a fad that will go away but I think it's accurate to say the consoles features, launch library, and price point are striking a chord with consumers and as long as Nintendo can get thier production ramped up, they are in a great position to capatilize.

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The assumption that the PS3 will see a spike in March, April, or May based on the fact that good software hasn't hit, therefore when good software hits, it will receiver a spike, ignores the inverse metric of the subsiding surge caused by the PS3 launch (people who want a PS3 regardless of software) which is now subsiding, now that proper inventory numbers are accruing. This is also true for the Wii, though Nintendo has a lower cost of entry, and isn't doing as well with supply as Sony, so that surge will linger for a few more months.

 

But those surges will die. We'll see a much more apples to apples comparison in sales numbers come this Fall.

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You are kidding right? The PS3 nearly matched the 360 sales for January and the PS3 had nothing for new releases. The 360 had a AAA title in Lost Planet. With the arrival of Motorstorm, VF5, NBA Street, Baseball, and yes, even God OF War 2, PS3's will outsell the 360 in March. Oh, a little Blu-Ray title called Casino Royale will be released in March as well. PS3 may be starting out slow, but in the end, I believe it will still win this generation. Just my prediciton. If it doens't happen in March, it will happen soon. It will not be long before people start buying PS3's. The games are finally coming.

 

-Dean-

 

No,I'm not kidding. "Casual Gamer" fan isn't going to be buying into the PS3 just yet. Every one of those titles that you mention are not system sellers. The biggest title that you list there is PS2 game. And,even that,IMHO still won't move PS3's to sell.

 

The Wii is currently outselling both systems at the moment simply because they have captured the hearts & minds of the aforementioned "Casual Gamer". I've seen & know of many people who have tried a Wii & then went & bought their own console.Nintendo has got a hit on their hands,& IF they can hold onto that momentum,they will be okay.

 

As for Sony,it's going to be awhile before you have a PS3 game that will sell systems.Especially at their price point.And I can't think of many PS3 games that will move consoles anyways.Many of their exculsives aren't so any longer.I honestly believe that this generation of systems will be much closer than any race before.We shall see.

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The Wii is currently outselling both systems at the moment simply because they have captured the hearts & minds of the aforementioned "Casual Gamer".

I don't know that they so much have captured the hearts and minds of the "casual gamer" outright. It's difficult to gauge what kind of market expansion Nintendo has actually been able to procure with the Wii at this early stage. What these recent sales number do prove (at least to me) is that price remains the most significant barrier for entry into this new generation of consoles.

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Nintendo will not hold for long in the console market. 3rd party will still be a problem there. I love my Wii, but I have stopped playing Zelda (nearly 30 hours in), and all other titles we have except for Trauma Center. The Wii fad will die down. And why Nintendo cannot get enough Gamecube 1.5's on the market boggles my mind.

 

You forget about the one thing that the PS3 has going for it. It is a phenomenal Blu-Ray player. I know three people here at work alone that are buying one as soon as they find a 20GB model...just for movies. They have no interest in games, but they love HD and movies. Plus, you think that Sony has fulfilled the hardcore gamer market and there are nothing left but casual gamers? Come on. The PS3 will start selling now that the expensive holiday season is over, tax checks are rolling in, good movies are coming out on Blu-Ray, and good games are finally coming out to play. Sony's name is still huge. We went through the argument before on Motorstorm not being a system seller. Myself and others think it is. If you can get me to play a demo almost everyday for nearly 2 months....you got yourself a winner of a game. :)

 

I love my 360 (when it works) and MS will be successful, but like Romier mentioned, sales have been flat for the 360 for its entire lifespan. They had a full year headstart and they still cannot outsell the PS2 and the PS3 is already catching up to them in monthly sales. Hell, in six moths, the Wii will be caught up with the 360 in sales. Halo 3 will cause the next big spike for them and I think GTA4 will be more successful on the PS3 than on the 360. A lot of GTA's fans associate the series with Sony.

 

Sony are arrogant sons of bitches and they have an agenda with Blu-Ray, but the fact of the matter is simple. They are still the top dog and MS squandered their chance to take that title away from them. Right now, Nintendo has a shot at being Top Dog in the handheld and Console markets. I just don't believe the Wii will be able to continue this love affair.

 

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No,I'm not kidding. "Casual Gamer" fan isn't going to be buying into the PS3 just yet. Every one of those titles that you mention are not system sellers. The biggest title that you list there is PS2 game. And,even that,IMHO still won't move PS3's to sell.

 

My observation has been quite different. The "casual gamers" I know all had PS2s and have either already bought a PS3 or plan to, simply because that's what they figure is the console of choice, sort of how people just keep buying Dells whether that's the best choice or not (not saying it isn't, not saying it is, but brand monotony/loyalty goes a long way).

 

That is, unless you meant "casual gamer" to mean people who don't want to or can't spend that much. That's something different.

 

That said, in my estimation, "casual gamer" is a PlayStation 2 owner. Just look at the numbers.

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When those casual gamers do go to upgrade their system which one are they going to pick? My experience is they'll get the one that plays their current library.

 

I didn't really expect the PS3 and 360 to be that close coming out of the holidays, the first 6 months of this year are going to be interesting, especially if Nintendo can continue 400k+ numbers. No 3rd party is going to balk at that.

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When those casual gamers do go to upgrade their system which one are they going to pick? My experience is they'll get the one that plays their current library.

 

'zackly.

 

Oh... and as far as pace goes, one thing to keep in mind despite all the numbers above and goofy press: the PS3 is selling at a FASTER pace than the PS2 was at this point in its life.

 

Yes, as Dean says, they're cocky, but through all the Sony bashing it looks like they're gonna do it again with the PS3.

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'zackly.

 

Oh... and as far as pace goes, one thing to keep in mind despite all the numbers above and goofy press: the PS3 is selling at a FASTER pace than the PS2 was at this point in its life.

 

That's because Sony launched in the US in 2000 with a completely inadequate supply and didn't manage to get decent shipments rolling until March 2001.

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