Report Photography (hardware & technical discussion thread) in Everything Else Posted 5 hours ago Its close focusing distance, albeit requiring EVF/LCD, is particularly appealing for an M lens, but above everything the rendering from images I've seen is just sublime. I think it would join the 50 APO as my dream lens combination for an M (frustration over seeing 35mm frame lines be damned ). Both are, in most respects, the qualities of their SL equivalents squished down into M form though which makes them miraculous and justifiably expensive technical achievements, and the SL versions would both be on my long term radar if I decide to go for an SL2-S next year. Things are still quiet on the SL2-S firmware update news, although Atomos updated the Ninja to fully support L-log now which I hope in the near future also means the two companies are going work together to be able to offer ProResRAW recording. The SL2-S is (a little) cheaper than an R5 so it's definitely high on my cameras of interest. I'm not expecting miracles from the firmware update as far as improving the af is concerned though, but the promise of an improvement with a new algorithm can hopefully only be taken to be a good thing nevertheless, and once it's out there and I can safely visit a store again to play around it will be easier to gather my thoughts, and I'd like to talk to the staff at the Leica Store about where things stand for customers after warranty periods reach their natural end in the UK's post-Brexit climate. The SL2-S definitely wins in video functionality over the R5, with the obvious exception of Canon's exemplary video autofocus, but I'm more concerned about improving the stills af on the SL2/SL2-S as going manual for video doesn't bother me at all, and I could use M lenses, or Sigma L mounts (like that dinky 28-70) quite happily with a manual rig. Even the Leica SL lenses added linear focus throw to their firmware several weeks ago which makes their own glass a lot more practical now for video use as you can now select varying options for degrees of rotation in the menus. .